!!!Meeting with Polderland 12.12.2006

Participants:
* Peter Beinema
* Sjur Moshagen



!!Agenda

* since last time
* questions and answers



!!Since last time

!Polderland:

* Spelling alphas sent (North S + Lule S., tested)
* Hyphenation alpha sent (North S.)
* work in progress on new version of mklex
* PLX-version of north Sami Nouns processed.
  Compiles OK into lexicon of 500K, not tested liguistically yet
* collecting texts for installshield installer to be translated into 



!Divvun:

* installed and tested the alpha version
* all open POSes now converted to PLX

!!Alpha version

It was received and installed. Installation went without problems.

There are still some problems with ž (U+017E, latin small letter z with caron).
Here are some cases:

* breaks the word: __Maŋimužžan__ - red line until ž
* does not recognise word: __iežaset -> iežaset__, that is, a correct word is
  underlined and is corrected to itself. When the suggestion is inserted, a red
  underline appears immediately
* works ok with spelling error: __erenoamažit -> erenoamážit__ (correctly
  recognised, correct suggestion)
* works ok, correctly spelled word: __ožžon__

** z+hacek/caron: should have been in there. Will check.

*** Ok


!!Possible issues

Compounding: three-letter words can be problematic in error detection, as
spelling errors can be masked as a compound of short words.

correct in Dutch:    Moskou with capital M (Moscow)
incorrect: moskou, but is recognised anyway because of "mos" (= moss) + "kou" (= cold)

Example:
{{{
word1xxxword3 = wronglyspelledlongword
}}}

where {{xxx}} is a three-letter word. The problem is most likely not that big,
due to the default syllable structure of regular words in Sámi:

{{{
VCV
CVCV
VCVC
}}}

Thus, only words with the structure {{VCV}} will be problematic. There are about
20 such words in our present lexicon.

Hypotetical example from Norwegian:

{{{
addosjon > addisjon (err > corr)
}}}

(the spelling error is analysed as a spurious compound ad-do-sjon; the word "ad"
does not exist, but serves to illustrate the problem (the other two words do
exist); from earlier experience with Norwegian, we know this problem is real.)

If -do- could be specified as impossible, the spelling error would be detected.
That is, only do- or -do, not -do-, should be allowed in compounds.

!!Next meeting

Next Tuesday (19.12.) at the usual time.

!!!TODO:
* re-send speller and hyphenator versions with ž added
* continue to improve hyphenation (__Sjur__ and __Thomas__)
* make complete PLX data set (__Tomi__)
* get language codes to work with Mac Office 2004 (and check MacOffice 2007)
  (__Polderland__)
* deliver Alpha versions (__Polderland__)
** done
* deliver mklex + hyphen script
* try to find proper compiler version for Adobe Indesign (old version will
  probably do)
* prepare (localisation of) installation packages for the Beta version
  (__Polderland__: send "default" texts to be translated)
* try to get an answer to the language codes in MS Office for Mac question from
  other sources (__Sjur__)