!!!Meeting with Polderland 25.9.2007

Participants:
* Peter Beinema
* Sjur Moshagen



!!!Agenda

* Since last time
* Possible issues
* Next meeting
* Todo items for the next meeting



!!!Since last time

!!Polderland

* fixing bugs: some bugs pending (461, 521, 522)
** compounding behaviour:
*** 3/4/5-part compound appear to work in general,
    but not in some specific cases
* indesign CS3 hyphenator now runs in release mode, testing completed
** will drop this week (Northern + Lule)
* mac speller: installation issue (admin rights)?
* zip utility for windows: not functional yet
** first part works, calling REAL language-dependent installer appears to crash
** have to do some debugging there
* Speller behaviour: only suggests if errors are limited to 1 part of compound.
** undesired (or should be user setting),
** will be changed in future drop



!!Divvun

* gave 3-4 real-life examples of 3-4 part compounds
* installed updated binaries from Polderland, compiled new spellers
* new binaries seem to work fine, and fix the bugs they should
* testing, bug hunting and fixing
* further improvements to our test bench



!!Bug status

!Solved/cancelled

||Div ||Pld ||Description
| 427 | 442 | n+accent aegu not considered part of word
| 465 | 449 | Hyphenation doesn't work on Mac :: solved at Divvun side
| 468 | 451 | Mac: konseartaprogr·mma -> kon-seart-apr-ogr-·mma
| 467 | 450 | Command-line speller tool has word-char punctuation issues (~477)
| 477 | 454 | Command-line speller tool has number-initial string issues (~467)
| 476 | 453 | Inconsistent speller behaviour depending on userdict availability => expected behaviour, message could be better
| 498 | 456 | Cmd-line speller doesn't accept hyph-penalty > 0

!To be solved in next drop
||Div ||Pld ||Description
| 402 | 439 | word + hyphen + comma is not recognised ("xxx-,") => solved
| 419 | 440 | 3-part compounds not recognised => solved => solved
| 448 | 444 | Upper-case words get suggestions with Initial Case => solved
| 455 | 446 | Mac uninstaller doesn't work if run by a non-admin => solved
| 473 | 452 | Windows installer does not autostart after download => discuss solutions
| 516 | 4?? | vista installation from zip fails => probably solved by self-extracting zip; not functioning yet 

!Under investigation by Polderland
||Div ||Pld ||Description
| 461 | 448 | Spelling errors with editing distance 1 from lexicalised words do not get correct suggestions => explanation not good enough, investigate more samples *** still investigating
| 480 | 455 | Speller suggestions not identical in context menu and dialog => MS word behaviour: sorting of same-penalty suggestions; => no plans to repair this one
| 521 | xxx | Mac installer only works for admin accounts => 
| 522 | xxx | Strange compounding fenomena

!To be investigated by Divvun/Users
||Div ||Pld ||Description
| 447 | 443 | Windows speller doesn't install on terminal server => SD IT guys will have a look once more

!Will not be solved
||Div ||Pld ||Description
| 449 | 445 | suopmasápmelaš-type compounds accepted by the speller => limits of tagging /compounding mechanism reached

!!!Issue discussion

!!473 - Windows installer

Alternatives to solve it:
* make an executable installer file - requires InstallShield, meaning that
  either Polderland will have to make each installation package, or that the
  Divvun project will have to get an InstallShield license
* make self-extracting zip files for download, with autostart options of the
  extracted objects; some alternative zippers for this:


For both cases different types of protection software (firewalls, anti-virus,
etc) might block either download or execution of the installer. But default
InstallShield installers behave in the same (or a similar) way, so that should
not be any different.

!!Speed

With more than 2-part compounds now available, suggestion speed is sometimes very slow, in the range of 10 seconds.

!!!Rough schedule

Polderland didn't meet their self-imposed goal of delivering at the beginning of
September, will try around mid September instead.

* Mid September: planned final drop from Polderland
* November 1: Divvun code freeze
* November 15: Indesign speller
* December 11: public release


!!!Next meeting

Next week (2.10.) at the usual time.

!!!TODO:
* __PLD__ drop first version of indesign Hyphenator
* __PLD__ pass information on self-extracting ziptool with autostart option
          + instructions on how to use it (not in working order yet)
* __PLD__ Proposal for command line hyphenator: 12/9
          ready to be sent by commercial dept
* __PLD__ do speed tests: Mac/PPC Mac/c2duo Win, Office 11 Office 12
          (compounding especially)