!!!Meeting setup * Date: 18.12.2006 * Time: 09.30 Norw. time * Place: Where we are * Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat !!!Agenda # Opening, agenda review # Reviewing the task list from last week # Documentation - divvun.no # Corpus gathering # Corpus infrastructure # Infrastructure # Linguistics # name lexicon infrastructure # Spellers # Other issues # Summary, task lists # Closing !!!1. Opening, agenda review, participants Opened at 09:56. Present: __Børre, Saara, Sjur, Thomas, Tomi__ Absent: __Maaren, Trond__ Agenda accepted as is. !!!2. Updated task status since last meeting !! Børre * contact authors who have already received the corpus licensing contract ** not done * continue work on script for automatic testing of the spell checker in Word ** not done * {{sma}} discussions with SD (with __Sjur__, __Trond__) ** not done * get an Intel Mac for testing Windows spellers; get a WinXP license from SD ** not done * recreate our forrest tarball ** not done * update setup and installation instructions for new users/computers ** not done * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] ** not done * other ** set up internationalized forrest on our webserver ** worked on fixing a bug in the aligner !! Maaren * investigate the generated word form list sent to Polderland - use the command {{make wordlist TARGET=sme}} in ''victorio'' !! Saara * help Trond with some shell commands ** not done * re-analyze parallel files ** decided to analyze some other files instead of these * consider implementing some new features to the corpus files ** not finished * write some Perl documentation ** done * vislcg as server, possibly as feature request to the vislcg devs ** not done * other ** implemented and tested fast handling of multi-word expressions to preprocessor ** number inflection etc. added to the preprocessor ** prepared corpus files for the move to the interfaace * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !! Sjur * name lexicon: ** refactor SD-terms editor code *** worked on ideas and requests from the Alta meeting ** implement missing propnouns editing functions ** implement improvements decided upon in Tromsø * hire linguist and programmer * decide how to specify compounding behaviour info in the lexicon ** one more try at moving this forward, not finished * {{sma}} discussions with SD (with __Børre__, __Trond__) * get an Intel Mac for testing Windows spellers; get a WinXP license from SD * publish corpus contracts and project infra on NoDaLi-sta * fix forrest installations for Maaren, Disamb * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] * other tasks: ** some work on the {{smj}} twol !! Thomas * refine {{smj}} proper noun lexica, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt ** nothing this week * decide how to specify compounding behaviour info in the lexicon ** nothing this week * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] ** fixed some lule-sámi that were discovered when testing speller !! Tomi * add closed POS and clitics to PLX generation ** worked with this one * add derivations to the PLX generation ** not done * add compound stems to the PLX generation ** not done * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !! Trond * refine {{smj}} proper noun lexica, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt * get more {{sma}} texts * decide how to specify compounding behaviour info in the lexicon * {{sma}} discussions with SD (with __Børre__, __Sjur__) [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla]. !!!3. Documentation __Børre__ added the new, fully i18n-ed documentation to our public site. TODO: * either fix forrest installations (__Sjur__), or create a new tarball (__Børre__) * cvs up of the public server should be done for {{xtdoc/sd/documentation/}} (__Børre__) !!!4. Corpus gathering __Sjur__ has received a heap of Bible files from __Pia__. __Børre__ will add them to the corpus. __TODO:__ * get {{sma}} Bible / NT texts (__Trond__) ** done * discussions with the Sámi Parliament about {{sma}} (__Børre, Sjur, Trond__) ** done (by __Sjur__) !!!5. Corpus infrastructure !!Aligner The aligner produces empty output - not so useful:-) __Børre__ has been working on fixing this bug. __TODO:__ * gather more parallel texts (__Trond, Børre__) * re-analyze parallel files using the command-line version (__Saara__) !!!6. Infrastructure !!Xerox tools wrapped as servers __TODO:__ * find a way of integrating {{vislcg}} as a server, or send a feature request to the {{vislcg}} developers (__Saara__) ** move this to Bugzilla !!!7. Linguistics !!Names and multilinguality TODO: # finish first version of the editing (__Sjur__) # test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: (__Sjur, Thomas, Trond__) # make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob as well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g. propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (__Sjur, Saara__) # convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files (__Sjur, Tomi, Saara__) # start to use the xml file as source file # clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use (e.g. @type=secondary) (__Thomas, Maaren, linguists__) # merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki, Helsingfors, Helsset (__linguists__) # publish the name lexicon on risten.no (__Sjur__) # add missing parallel names for placenames (__linguists__) # add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils (__linguists__) !!North Sámi The latest change in sme-lex.txt: {{{ +N+SgNomCmp: R ; ! gahpirg√°nda, ƒçoahkkinordnet +N+SgNomCmp:X7 R ; ! gahperg√°nda, ƒçoahkkenordnet }}} How much will this overgenerate, would it be better to have two different lexicons, or lexicalise exceptional compounding? (GAHPIR has 2329 members...) Command to extract the relevant parts of GAHPIR words: {{{ grep GAHPIR noun-sme-lex.txt | cut -d":" -f1 | cut -d" " -f1 | cut -d"#" -f3 | cut -d"#" -f2 | rev | sort | uniq | rev | l }}} One possibility is to split GAHPIR into three lexica: # vowel lowering (X7) # no vowel lowering # both for the same lexeme Another possibility could be to write two-level rules, if lowering/non-lowering follows a certain pattern. TODO: * go through the class of GAHPIR words, and try to generalise the compounding behaviour (__Thomas__) * change whatever is needed based on the above generalisation (__Thomas, Trond__) !!Lule Sámi A lot of work has been done on the {{sme}} name lexicon, the {{smj}} copy should be updated. Nothing new on the {{smj}} proper noun lexicon itself.. TODO: * refine {{smj}} proper noun lexica, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt (__Thomas, Trond__) * update proper noun lexicon with copy of {{sme}} lexicon (__Trond__) !!!8. Name lexicon infrastructure Decided in Tromsø: * add logging facilities to the interface * add option to download local copies of the lexicon files directly from the db * batch editing (change all entries in the found set), should later be enhanced to allow selection of exceptions (the found set minus deselected items) * tag for excluding/including a name from certain applications * future epxansion: choose what info to display in the single language browser * display existing language entries when adding a new language to a record * add editor to change single, existing entries Details can be found in [the meeting memo.|/doc/admin/physical_meetings/tromso-2006-08-propnoun.html] TODO: * develop the needed XQueries and UI (__Sjur, Tomi__) Postponed: * data synchronisation between [risten.no|http://www.risten.no] and the cvs repo * new version of xml2lexc (based on ccat), should handle complex names correct: construct entries like we have now from the different parts of a complex name entry !!!9. Spellers !!Alpha version Was received one and a half week ago, and contains spellers for {{sme}} and {{smj}}, as well as a {{sme}} hyphenator. The proofing files can be had from __Sjur__. !!Polderland data generation __TODO:__ * decide how to specify compounding behaviour info for the lexicon (__Thomas, Trond, Sjur__) ** new meeting Tuesday Dec. 19, after lunch * add closed POS and clitics to PLX generation (__Tomi__) ** has been working, not yet finished * add derivations to the PLX generation (__Tomi__) * add compound stems to the PLX generation (__Tomi__) !!Aspell TODO when the major part of the PLX conversion is done: * add Aspell/Hunspell data generation to the lexc2xspell (__Tomi__ - after the PLX data generation is finished) * study Hunspell, perhaps also Soikko (__Børre, Sjur, Tomi__) !!Testing __TODO:__ * get an Intel Mac for testing Windows spellers; get a WinXP license from SD (__Børre, Sjur__) ** WinXP is sent from __SD/Leif Åge__ to __Sjur__ and __Børre__. !!!10. Other !!Corpus contracts TODO: * publish corpus contracts and project infra on NoDaLi-sta (__Sjur__) !!Bug fixing __57__ open Divvun/Disamb bugs, and __23__ risten.no bugs Guess: 1/3 of the bugs are fixed already (?) !!New Perl modules TODO: * write Perl module dependency documentation (__Saara__) ** done * update setup and installation instructions (__Børre__) !!!11. Next meeting, closing The next meeting is 3.1.2007, 09:30 Norwegian time. The meeting was closed at 11:09. !!!Appendix - task lists for the next week !! Boerre [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2006/Tasks_2006-12-18_Boerre.ics] * contact authors who have already received the corpus licensing contract * continue work on script for automatic testing of the spell checker in Word * recreate our forrest tarball * update setup and installation instructions for new users/computers * create new forrest tarball * cvs up of the public server should be done for {{xtdoc/sd/documentation/}} * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !! Maaren [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2006/Tasks_2006-12-18_Maaren.ics] * investigate the generated word form list sent to Polderland - use the command {{make wordlist TARGET=sme}} in ''victorio'' !! Saara [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2006/Tasks_2006-12-18_Saara.ics] * help Trond with some shell commands * re-analyze parallel files * Move to Bugzilla: vislcg server-friendly as feature request to the vislcg devs * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !! Sjur [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2006/Tasks_2006-12-18_Sjur.ics] * name lexicon: ** refactor SD-terms editor code ** implement missing propnouns editing functions ** implement improvements decided upon in Tromsø * hire linguist and programmer * decide how to specify compounding behaviour info in the lexicon * get an Intel Mac for testing Windows spellers * publish corpus contracts and project infra on NoDaLi-sta * fix forrest installations for Maaren, Disamb * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !! Thomas [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2006/Tasks_2006-12-18_Thomas.ics] * refine {{smj}} proper noun lexica, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt * decide how to specify compounding behaviour info in the lexicon * go through the class of GAHPIR words, and try to generalise the compounding behaviour * change whatever is needed based on the above generalisation * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !! Tomi [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2006/Tasks_2006-12-18_Tomi.ics] * add closed POS and clitics to PLX generation * add derivations to the PLX generation * add compound stems to the PLX generation * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !! Trond [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2006/Tasks_2006-12-18_Trond.ics] * update the {{smj}} proper noun lexicon, and refine the morphological analysis, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt * Go through the GAHPIR lexicon (with Thomas) * get more {{sma}} texts * decide how to specify compounding behaviour info in the lexicon * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla].