!!!Meeting setup * Date: 03.01.2007 * Time: 09.30 Norw. time * Place: Where we are * Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat !!!Agenda # Opening, agenda review # Reviewing the task list from last week # Documentation - divvun.no # Corpus gathering # Corpus infrastructure # Infrastructure # Linguistics # name lexicon infrastructure # Spellers # Other issues # Summary, task lists # Closing !!!1. Opening, agenda review, participants Opened at 10:42. Present: __Børre, Saara, Sjur, Steinar, Thomas, Trond__ Absent: __Maaren, Tomi__ Agenda accepted as is. !!!2. Updated task status since last meeting !! Børre * contact authors who have already received the corpus licensing contract ** not done * continue work on script for automatic testing of the spell checker in Word ** not done * update setup and installation instructions for new users/computers ** not done * create new forrest tarball ** not done * cvs up of the public server should be done for {{xtdoc/sd/documentation/}} ** not done * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] ** not done * other: ** fixed link errors in gtuit/doc !! Maaren * investigate the generated word form list sent to Polderland - use the command {{make wordlist TARGET=sme}} in ''victorio'' !! Saara * help Trond with some shell commands * re-analyze parallel files ** done, aligner now works. * Move to Bugzilla: vislcg server-friendly as feature request to the vislcg devs ** done * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] ** done some !! Sjur * name lexicon: ** refactor SD-terms editor code ** implement missing propnouns editing functions ** implement improvements decided upon in Tromsø *** started work on a refactor of some basic code, to allow greater flexibility, easier coding, and hopefully a better interface * hire linguist and programmer * decide how to specify compounding behaviour info in the lexicon ** combinatorial behaviour decided; specification of form still not done * get an Intel Mac for testing Windows spellers * publish corpus contracts and project infra on NoDaLi-sta * fix forrest installations for Maaren, Disamb * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !! Thomas * refine {{smj}} proper noun lexica, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt ** we've begun * decide how to specify compounding behaviour info in the lexicon ** on our way * go through the class of GAHPIR words, and try to generalise the compounding behaviour ** done * change whatever is needed based on the above generalisation ** done * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] ** worked with bugs !! Tomi * add closed POS and clitics to PLX generation * add derivations to the PLX generation * add compound stems to the PLX generation * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !! Trond * update the {{smj}} proper noun lexicon, and refine the morphological analysis, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt ** We have done some work on this. * Go through the GAHPIR lexicon (with Thomas) ** Done * get more {{sma}} texts ** No news. * decide how to specify compounding behaviour info in the lexicon ** At least we worked on this, what was the final outcome again? * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla]. ** Done some work on bugs, closed a couple. !!!3. Documentation TODO: * either fix forrest installations (__Sjur__), or create a new tarball (__Børre__) * cvs up of the public server should be done for {{xtdoc/sd/documentation/}} - notice the directory! (__Børre__) * update setup and installation instructions (__Børre__) !!!4. Corpus gathering We should probably concentrate upon mending what we have, up to Febrary 8th. __Børre__ has been fixing the meta information for many files, adding info on parallel language versions. TODO: * {{sme}} texts: Fix what we have for this month (__Børre, Trond, Saara__) * missing {{nob}} parallel texts could be an issue (__Børre, Trond__) !!!5. Corpus infrastructure !!Aligner The command line aligner is in place, and most(?)/all(?) potential texts are aligned. __TODO:__ * make an overview of status quo (__Trond, Børre, Saara__). __Børre__ has added parallellity status to all {{admin/sd/}} texts * gather more parallel texts (__Trond, Børre__) ** not any more? (depends on what we are missing and how hard they are to get, but we will not put much time into it) * re-analyze parallel files using the command-line version (__Saara__) ** progressing * when aligned, send aligned, xml {{nob}} texts to __Lars__ (__Saara__) !!Conversion issues Analysis statistics: {{{ words missing % recognised adm 1493746 28967 98,06 bib 241233 2651 98,90 fac 382353 11371 97,03 fic 70601 7847 88,89 law 284700 6269 97,80 new 4032848 17134 99,58 }}} There are still a lot of conversion errors, and fixing them should be a priority this month. Error types: * pdf files (there will always be some errors here) * string-string replacement during the xsl conversion ** Conversion errors (but we want to fix the conversion) ** typos (should be marked up using our error markup tags) ** grammatical errors (as above) So far, we only have had character replacement (even context-less character replacement). We can use XSL string replacement to correct spelling errors to constructs like, cf the {{corpus.dtd}} and [a previous meeting memo |http://www.divvun.no/doc/admin/weekly/2006/Meeting_2006-03-20.html#Correction+tags%3F]: {{{ erroneous text }}} Either we use the function __Trond__ found, or we install and use Saxon 8 and XSL 2, which have good string manipulation tools. Flow: * orig * xsl ** corr-of-textstring (not implemented yet) (we is > we are) (we keep the orig text, and the correction is added as additional info in an attribute, see above) * xml * preprocess * corr-of-token=typos.txt eror>error * analysis Do we have good tools for localising conversion errors? Problem: I spot an error in the analysis. Which file is it in? {{ccat}} removes file source info, and we are thus in the blind. Conclusion: we don't have a good tool for this, only grep. __TODO:__ * add correction markup to the xml files (string-to-correction markup) (__Saara__) * report conversion errors to __Saara__ (__Trond, Steinar__) !!!6. Infrastructure !!Xerox tools wrapped as servers __TODO:__ * find a way of integrating {{vislcg}} as a server, or send a feature request to the {{vislcg}} developers (__Saara__) ** move this to Bugzilla *** done !!!7. Linguistics !!Names and multilinguality TODO: # finish first version of the editing (__Sjur__) # test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: (__Sjur, Thomas, Trond__) # make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob as well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g. propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (__Sjur, Saara__) # convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files (__Sjur, Tomi, Saara__) # start to use the xml file as source file # clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use (e.g. @type=secondary) (__Thomas, Maaren, linguists__) # merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki, Helsingfors, Helsset (__linguists__) # publish the name lexicon on risten.no (__Sjur__) # add missing parallel names for placenames (__linguists__) # add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils (__linguists__) !!North Sámi TODO: * go through the class of GAHPIR words, and try to generalise the compounding behaviour (__Thomas__) ** done * change whatever is needed based on the above generalisation (__Thomas, Trond__) ** done !!Lule Sámi TODO: * refine {{smj}} proper noun lexica, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt (__Thomas, Trond__) ** progressing - good! * update proper noun lexicon with copy of {{sme}} lexicon (__Trond__) ** done !!!8. Name lexicon infrastructure Decided in Tromsø: * add logging facilities to the interface * add option to download local copies of the lexicon files directly from the db * batch editing (change all entries in the found set), should later be enhanced to allow selection of exceptions (the found set minus deselected items) * tag for excluding/including a name from certain applications * future epxansion: choose what info to display in the single language browser * display existing language entries when adding a new language to a record * add editor to change single, existing entries Details can be found in [the meeting memo.|/doc/admin/physical_meetings/tromso-2006-08-propnoun.html] TODO: * develop the needed XQueries and UI (__Sjur, Tomi__) * try to make a first version of xml2lexc in Perl for testing and preparation for the big jump (__Saara__) Postponed: * data synchronisation between [risten.no|http://www.risten.no] and the cvs repo * new version of xml2lexc (based on ccat), should handle complex names correct: construct entries like we have now from the different parts of a complex name entry !!!9. Spellers !!Polderland data generation __TODO:__ * decide how to specify compounding behaviour info for the lexicon (__Thomas, Trond, Sjur__) ** partially done - compound stem specification still open * add closed POS and clitics to PLX generation (__Tomi__) * add derivations to the PLX generation (__Tomi__) * add compound stems to the PLX generation (__Tomi__) !!Aspell TODO when the major part of the PLX conversion is done: * add Aspell/Hunspell data generation to the lexc2xspell (__Tomi__ - after the PLX data generation is finished) * study Hunspell, perhaps also Soikko (__Børre, Sjur, Tomi__) !!Testing __TODO:__ * get an Intel Mac for testing Windows spellers (__Børre, Sjur__) !!Localisation The Windows installer should be localised. We have received the string file from Polderland, now they should be translated. The Mac installer they use is the standard MacOS X installer, and as {{sme}} isn't generally turned on as a UI language in MacOS X, there is no big point in translating it. It could be done, though:-) TODO: * send translation text to __Børre__ and __Thomas__ (__Sjur__) * translate Windows installer to {{sme}} and {{smj}} (__Børre, Thomas__) !!!10. Other !!Corpus contracts TODO: * publish corpus contracts and project infra on NoDaLi-sta (__Sjur__) ** still not done !!Bug fixing __55__ open Divvun/Disamb bugs, and __23__ risten.no bugs Guess: 1/3 of the bugs are fixed already (?) !!!11. Next meeting, closing The next meeting is 8.1.2007, 09:00 Norwegian time. The meeting was closed at 12:12. !!!Appendix - task lists for the next week !! Boerre [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-01-03_Boerre.ics] * contact authors who have already received the corpus licensing contract * continue work on script for automatic testing of the spell checker in Word * recreate our forrest tarball * update setup and installation instructions for new users/computers * create new forrest tarball * cvs up of the public server should be done for {{xtdoc/sd/documentation/}} * fix {{sme}} texts in corpus this month * find missing {{nob}} parallel texts in corpus * aligner status quo * translate Windows installer to {{sme}} and {{smj}} * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !! Maaren [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-01-03_Maaren.ics] * investigate the generated word form list sent to Polderland - use the command {{make wordlist TARGET=sme}} in ''victorio'' !! Saara [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-01-03_Saara.ics] * help Trond with some shell commands * fix {{sme}} texts in corpus this month * aligner status quo * send aligned, xml {{nob}} texts to __Lars__ * add correction markup to the xml files (string-to-correction markup) * first new version of xml2lexc in Perl * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !! Sjur [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-01-03_Sjur.ics] * name lexicon: ** refactor SD-terms editor code ** implement missing propnouns editing functions ** implement improvements decided upon in Tromsø * hire linguist and programmer * decide how to specify compounding behaviour info in the lexicon * get an Intel Mac for testing Windows spellers * publish corpus contracts and project infra on NoDaLi-sta * fix forrest installations for Maaren, Disamb * send Windows installer translation text to __Børre__ and __Thomas__ * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !! Steinar [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-01-03_Steinar.ics] * conversion error screening * missing lists * report conversion errors to __Saara__ * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !! Thomas [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-01-03_Thomas.ics] * refine {{smj}} proper noun lexica, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt * decide how to specify compounding behaviour info in the lexicon * translate Windows installer to {{sme}} and {{smj}} * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !! Tomi [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-01-03_Tomi.ics] * add closed POS and clitics to PLX generation * add derivations to the PLX generation * add compound stems to the PLX generation * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !! Trond [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-01-03_Trond.ics] * update the {{smj}} proper noun lexicon, and refine the morphological analysis, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt * get more {{sma}} texts * aligner status quo * decide how to specify compounding behaviour info in the lexicon * Set up work on missing and converision screening with Steinar. * fix {{sme}} texts in corpus this month * find missing {{nob}} parallel texts in corpus * report conversion errors to __Saara__ * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla].