!!!Meeting setup * Date: 21.8.2007 * Time: 10.30 Norw. time * Place: Internet * Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat/Skype !!!Agenda # Opening, agenda review # Reviewing the task list from last week # Documentation - divvun.no # Corpus gathering # Corpus infrastructure # Infrastructure # Linguistics # name lexicon infrastructure # Spellers # Other issues # Summary, task lists # Closing !!!1. Opening, agenda review, participants Opened at 11:14. Present: __Børre, Ilona__ (last part), __Maaren, Per-Eric, Sjur, Thomas, Tomi, Trond__ Absent: __none__ Agenda accepted as is. !!!2. Updated task status since last meeting !!Børre * add {{sma}} texts to the corpus repository ** Not done * run all known spelling errors in the prooftest corpus through the speller ** Not done * add extraction of all known spelling errors in the regular corpus (not the {{prooftest}} corpus), and check that they are properly corrected ** Not done * update and fix our documentation and infrastructure ** Not done * follow-up contact with ''Davvi Girji'' ** Done. __Michal Aase__ had just arrived from vacation, will send us texts when he finds time. * fix bound corpus access for external users (documentation, application) ** Not done * move error markup in xml files to (a copy of) the originals ** Not done * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] * Other: ** Continued working with sfst. !!Maaren * lexicalise actio compounds ** worked and still working !!Per-Eric * expand the smj typos list ** worked and still working * add missing smj words ** worked and still working * fix errors in {{smj/src/typos.txt}} ** done * lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list ** worked and still working * test new speller for actios of 3-sybbable verbs, adverbs of 3-s adjs and æ/ä ** done some * add compounding tags to adjectives ** done allmost ready * ask __SD/Sweden__ about {{smj}} place names ** done * call __Kåre Tjikkom__ about {{smj}} place names and correct-doc ** done * call __Samuel Gælok__ about texts ** done !!Saara * add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs * Try to add files with Lars to the corpus interface. * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Sjur * speller testing: ** run all known spelling errors in the corpus through the speller ** document the AppleScript testing tool ** integrate regression self tests with the make file *** tested the baseform extraction tool made by __Tomi__ ** improve speller test bench ** integrate the ccat speller testing options in the make file * fix internet setup for __Per-Eric's__ satelite modem ** nothing done * check with Sámi publishing houses whether support for CS2 is still needed ** only Iđut left - tried to call, no answer. Board decided we will drop it anyway (I don't think it is a big problem for Iđut). * publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta ** nothing done * fix bound corpus access for external users (documentation, application) ** nothing done * fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case {{o}} ** nothing done * {{ä/æ}} in {{smj}} speller ** nothing done * restart work on the XML name editor/risten.no integration ** done some details * plan the rest of the project period ** nothing done * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Thomas * work with compounding ** worked * fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case {{o}} ** not done * test new speller for æ/ä ** not done * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] ** not worked !!Tomi * make PLX conversion test sample; add conversion testing to the make file ** not done * add Hunspell data generation/conversion ** not done * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Trond * Work on the web corpus issues ** Not done. * update the {{smj}} proper noun lexicon, and refine the morphological analysis, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt ** Not done. * fix bound corpus access for external users (documentation, application) ** Not done. Oslo will administer the external access. Docu not written. * fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case {{o}} ** Not looked into. * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla]. ** Worked on bugs, fixed many. !!!3. Documentation Corpus web interface: Oslo will take care of everything. Unix access: we'll bring it up if needed. For the time being web access should suffice for most users. !!!4. Corpus gathering __Per-Eric__ didn't meet with __Sigga Tuolja-Sandström__, but talked with her instead. The text licensing contracts should be fixed now. __Per-Eric__ will get the text from another person. __Børre__ talked with __Michal Aase__, and they (Davvi Girji) will send us all texts for which we have a contract with the authors. __Per-Eric__ talked with Samuel Gælok, who said that __Iđut__ has several of his texts. There's also another person/publisher in Karasjok that has some of his texts. Kulturminnelova in {{smj}} is only available in paper form, unless __Anders Kintel__ has an electronic copy. __TODO:__ * add {{sma}} texts to the corpus repository (__Trond__) !!!5. Corpus infrastructure Nothing this week either. !!!6. Infrastructure __Børre__ got the G5 working again. It was caused by a misconfiguration in the firewall. We are ordering a new server for faster processing. !!!7. Linguistics !!North Sámi Remaining twol issues: {{{ ! Changed because:we get olmmož-, not olmmoš- olmmošmuorra olmmošmuorra olmmošmuorra +? olmmožmuorra olmmožmuorra olmmoš+N+SgNomCmp#muorra+N+Sg+Nom ! Changed because:we get almmáj- and not almmái- but this works now: almmájmuorra almmájmuorra almmájmuorra +? almmáimuorra almmáimuorra almmái+N+SgNomCmp#muorra+N+Sg+Nom almmáj- almmáj- almmáj- +? almmái- almmái- almmái+N+SgNomCmp+Cmpnd }}} We are now back to two errors in the twol-test file: {{{ !€ olmmožX4X7- !€ olmmoš00- #:0 ! € o l m m o ž:š X4:0 X7:0 REJECTED: "Word Final Consonant Neutralization 1" fails in state 17. !€ hálijd# !€ háliit0 #:0 ! € h á l i j:i d:t REJECTED: "Word Final Consonant Neutralization 1" fails in state 27. }}} The {{sme}} names from Finland is still not added to the lexicon (__Børre__ has them). This will be done by __Ilona__. TODO: * lexicalise actio compounds. Example: ''vuolggasadji'' vs. ''vuolginsadji'' (__Maaren__) * fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case {{o}} (__Sjur, Thomas, Trond__) * add the {{sme}} place names from Finland (__Ilona__) !!Lule Sámi The {{æ-ä}} alternation issue has turned into an interesting direction. With the latest speller (29.6.), it behaves like the following: {{{ dæbbaga - ok däbbaga - däbboga dæbbaga dæbbaga-- dibága dibága-- dubága dubága-- tubága vællahit - ok vällahit - vællahit vellahit gæhtjáj - ok gähtjáj - ok }}} That is, {{ä}} works in some cases, but not in other. {{æ}} seems to work everywhere it should. __Per-Eric__ talked to __Nils-Olof Sortelius__ at __Sámediggi in Sweden__ ({{smj}} place names), we will have to contact Lennart Dehlin, Lantmäteriverket Lennart.Dehlin(at)lm.se. Also talked to Kåre Tjikkom, who gave P-E the name of the SD/N contact person in place name issues: __Lisa Monika Aslaksen__. __Kåre Tjikkom__ has lost his speller-correct document. __Sjur__ will have to find it, or make a new one. This is probably a speller issue, not a twolc one. The transducers work fine: {{{ däbbaga däbbaga deppa+N+Sg+Gen däbbaga deppa+N+Pl+Nom däbbaga dæppa+N+Sg+Gen däbbaga dæppa+N+Pl+Nom vällahit vällahit vællahit+V+IV+Inf vällahit vællahit+V+IV+Imprt+Pl2 gähtjáj gähtjáj giehtje+N+Sg+Ill }}} From invert transducers (regular and normative): {{{ Tomi-si-maskin:~/Documents/eclipse/workspace/gt tomi$ lookup -flags mbTT -utf8 smj/bin/ismj.fst 0%>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>100% dæppa+N+Sg+Gen dæppa+N+Sg+Gen dæbbaga dæppa+N+Sg+Gen däbbaga Tomi-si-maskin:~/Documents/eclipse/workspace/gt tomi$ lookup -flags mbTT -utf8 smj/bin/ismj-norm.fst 0%>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>100% dæppa+N+Sg+Gen dæppa+N+Sg+Gen dæbbaga }}} Normative produces word only with æ. TODO: * refine {{smj}} proper noun lexica, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt (__Thomas, Trond__) * {{ä/æ}} in speller (__Thomas, Sjur, Trond__) ** does only work partially, see data above. * lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list, but check against the pdf original where in doubt (__Per-Eric__) ** needs help with the last part * add compounding tags to (some weeks of work): ** nouns (__Thomas__) *** a few weeks left ** adjs (__Per-Eric__) *** done most of them, will have to recheck some * ask __SD/Sweden__ about {{smj}} place names (__Per-Eric__) ** done * call __Samuel Gælok__ about texts (__Per-Eric__) ** done * call __Kåre Tjikkom__ about {{smj}} place names and correct-doc (__Per-Eric__) ** done * resend {{smj}} speller-correct document to __Kåre Tjikkom__ (__Sjur__) !!!8. Name lexicon infrastructure This sub-project needs to get up and running soon. Mainly __Sjur's__ task. Decisions made in Tromsø can be found in [this meeting memo.|/doc/admin/physical_meetings/tromso-2006-08-propnoun.html] __TODO:__ # fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (__Saara__) # finish first version of the editing (__Sjur__) # test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: (__Sjur, Thomas, Trond__) # make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob as well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g. propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (__Sjur, Saara__) # convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files (__Sjur, Tomi, Saara__) # implement data synchronisation between [risten.no|http://www.risten.no] and the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the official one; also local installations could be treated the same way) # start to use the xml file as source file # clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use (e.g. @type=secondary) (__Thomas, Maaren, linguists__) # merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki, Helsingfors, Helsset (__linguists__) # publish the name lexicon on risten.no (__Sjur__) # add missing parallel names for placenames (__linguists__) # add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils (__linguists__) !!!9. Spellers !!OOo spellers __Tomi__ is working on the lexicon conversion to the Hunspell format. It is moving forward. TODO: * add Hunspell data conversion (__Tomi__) !!Testing !Spelling Error Markup __TODO:__ * Set up ways of adding meta-information (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not) (__Saara__) * move __Steinar's__ error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original (__Børre__) !Automated testing __TODO:__ * document the AppleScript testing tool (__Sjur__) * improve speller test bench (__Sjur__) ** integrate the {{ccat}} speller testing options in the Makefile (__Sjur__) * add extraction of all known spelling errors in the corpus (not the {{prooftest}} corpus), and check that they are properly corrected (__Børre, Sjur__) * how to do a regression __self-test__: ** extract all the base forms in the lexicon, and run them through the speller ** extract all SUB-marked entries, and run them through the speller *** integrate these in the make file (__Sjur__) !!Lexicon conversion to the PLX format It seems to work quite ok now. We might still consider to ask Xerox for a license. !!New public beta Delayed till the majority of the present bugs are fixed. !!!10. Other !!Corpus contracts TODO: * publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta (__Sjur__) !!Bug fixing When fixing bugs, record the version number containing the fix in the Bugzilla bug report, such that for each bug, we know exactly when it should have been fixed, in what file(s) and what version. __55__ open Divvun/Disamb bugs (__21__ of these 56 are speller bugs, __35__ are general bugs), and __23__ risten.no bugs !!New team member Ilona is joining the Divvun project from today - welcome! Hi! :) !!Board meeting __Sjur__ went to Oslo on Thursday Aug. 16 to meet the board. Some highlights: Additions to our project accepted by the board: * {{smj}} hyphenation * InDesign speller The planned release party will be on December 11, in Oslo. All project members are invited. !!Project meeting We'll meet in September, 24-28, to work on the hardest remaining issues. Default location is Kautokeino, but we'll also consider Tromsø until the next project meeting. !!!11. Next meeting, closing The next meeting is 27.8.2007, 09:30 Norwegian time. The meeting was closed at 10:57. !!!Appendix - task lists for the next week !!Boerre [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-08-21_Boerre.ics] * run all known spelling errors in the prooftest corpus through the speller * add extraction of all known spelling errors in the regular corpus (not the {{prooftest}} corpus), and check that they are properly corrected * move __Steinar's__ error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Ilona [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-08-21_Ilona.ics] * lexicalise missing words * add {{sme}} names from FIN !!Maaren [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-08-21_Maaren.ics] * lexicalise actio compounds !!Per-Eric [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-08-21_Per-Eric.ics] * expand the smj typos list * add missing smj words * lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list * add compounding tags to adjectives !!Saara [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-08-21_Saara.ics] * add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Sjur [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-08-21_Sjur.ics] * improve speller test bench: ** run all known spelling errors in the corpus through the speller ** document the AppleScript testing tool ** integrate regression self tests with the make file ** integrate the ccat speller testing options in the make file * publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta * fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case {{o}} * {{ä/æ}} in {{smj}} speller * restart work on the XML name editor/risten.no integration * plan the rest of the project period * resend {{smj}} speller-correct document to __Kåre Tjikkom__ * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Thomas [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-08-21_Thomas.ics] * work with compounding * fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case {{o}} * {{ä/æ}} in {{smj}} speller * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Tomi [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-08-21_Tomi.ics] * make PLX conversion test sample; add conversion testing to the make file * add Hunspell data generation/conversion * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Trond [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-08-21_Trond.ics] * Work on the web corpus issues * update the {{smj}} proper noun lexicon, and refine the morphological analysis, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt * fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case {{o}} * add {{sma}} texts to the corpus repository * {{ä/æ}} in {{smj}} speller * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla].