!!!Meeting setup * Date: 10.12.2007 * Time: 09.30 Norw. time * Place: Internet * Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat/Skype !!!Agenda # Opening, agenda review # Reviewing the task list from last week # Documentation - divvun.no # Corpus gathering # Corpus infrastructure # Infrastructure # Linguistics # name lexicon infrastructure # Spellers # Other issues # Summary, task lists # Closing !!!1. Opening, agenda review, participants Opened at 09:57. Present: __Børre, Ilona, Sjur, Thomas__ Absent: __Risten, Per-Eric, Trond, Tomi__ Agenda accepted as is. !!!2. Updated task status since last meeting !!Børre * fix [bug 550|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=550] ** Finally done * finalise InDesign hyphenator ** not done * update usage and installation documentation ** read the present documentation carefully, and see if there are missing parts *** done ** documentation meeting on Wednesday with Sjur, Thomas *** done * 100 CD covers should be picked up in Tromsø ** done * new/updated front page (old front page to history page) ** not done * press release ** __Thomas__ did it * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Ilona * lexicalise {{smj}} missing words. * Work with missing forms in {{sme}} typos.txt ** Not done yet, but working on it. * Translation ** Hopefully done. !!Maaren * lexicalise actio compounds !!Per-Eric * check some unusual words from the Olavi missing list which are still not lexicalised * derivations tests * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Risten * set up CD-printing printer * test printer * finish the cd cover and cd design * Print 50 CDs, take them to Oslo as backup !!Saara * add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs * Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not) * add nested error markup to xml conversion * discuss more parallel texts !!Sjur * fix [bug 550|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=550] ** done * document Windows CD installation work-around ** not yet * finalise InDesign hyphenator ** done a lot, but no documentation, and the download package isn't yet finished * update usage and installation documentation ** done, not complete ** documentation meeting on Wednesday with Thomas, Børre *** done * analyse hyphenation test results ** done, with feedback from Polderland * fix remaining bugs - golden master by end of this Monday ** all serious bugs fixed, some smaller ones left - GM declared on Friday * new/updated front page (old front page to history page) ** not yet done * press release ** Thomas started on this one * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Thomas * {{sme->smj}} lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources ** not any this week * test hyphenation ** little done * analyse hyphenation test results ** little done * look at test cases still not behaving properly ** little done * update usage and installation documentation ** done ** search Bugzilla for documentation issues in Divvun => add to docu ** done ** documentation meeting on Wednesday with Sjur, Børre ** done * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] ** little done !!Tomi * Hunspell lexicon conversion * fix remaining bugs - golden master by end of this Monday * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Trond * {{sme->smj}} lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources * analyse hyphenation test results * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla]. !!!3. Documentation Needs to be fixed by Wednesday. __TODO:__ * fix [bug 550|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=550] (__Børre, Sjur__) ** investigation and fix scheduled for Tuesday !!!4. Corpus infrastructure Nothing. !!!5. Infrastructure __TODO:__ * add Jabber account in iChat (__all__) !!!6. Linguistics !!North Sámi Hyphenation test results: {{{ Correct: -------- konseartaprográmma kon-sear-ta-pro-grám-ma konseartaeahkedis kon-sear-ta-eah-ke-dis Márkomeanu Már-ko-mea-nu lávvardateahkeda láv-var-dat-eah-ke-da konseartaeahkedis kon-sear-ta-eah-ke-dis lávvardateahkeda láv-var-dat-eah-ke-da servodatberošteaddji ser-vo-dat-be-roš-tead-dji sámegillii sá-me-gil-lii sátnegovat sát-ne-go-vat morašluohti mo-raš-luoh-ti Justislávdegoddi Jus-tis-láv-de-god-di Sámedikkiin Sá-me-dik-kiin olggosaddán olg-gos-ad-dán luitet lui-tet kristtalaš krist-ta-laš orrun or-run Lotnolasealáhusas Lot-no-las-ea-lá-hu-sas juoiganjuristan juoi-gan-ju-ris-tan issoras is-so-ras suinna suin-na dáinna dáin-na Háliidivččen Há-lii-divč-čen bisánivčče bi-sá-nivč-če duostan duos-tan Gárdegobba Gár-de-gob-ba Čeakčačahca Čeak-ča-čah-ca Gobba Gob-ba Sáivagobba Sái-va-gob-ba Missing hyph points (/): ------------------------ olgobáikkis ol-go/báik-kis máilmmi má/ilm-mi gaskaijabeaivváš gas-ka/i-ja-beaiv-váš dehálaš de-há#laš Incorrect (#): -------------- lotnolasealáhussan lot-no-la#s/e#a/lá/hus-san bearrašiin be#ar-ra/ši#in PLX XFST code: -------------- ol^go^báik^kis NIE gas^kai^ja^beaiv^váš- NBOX gas^kai^ja^beaiv^váš NIOE gas^kai^ja^beaiv^váš- NIE gas^kai^ja^beaiv^váš- GaIE gas^kai^ja^beaiv^váš NBO gas^kai^ja^beaiv^váš GaBO bear^ra^šiin NIE lot^no^la^sea^lá^hus^san NIE }}} __TODO:__ * test latest hyphenator (__Sjur__) * analyse test results (__Thomas, Sjur, Trond__) !!Lule Sámi Hyphenation test results: {{{ Correct: -------- viessomguhkes vies-som-guh-kes viessomvuohkáj vies-som-vuoh-káj árvvovuodo árv-vo-vuo-do väráltárbbe vä-rált-árb-be åhpadusorganisásjåvnån åh-pa-dus-or-ga-ni-sá-sjåv-nån häjmmadáfo häjm-ma-dá-fo árbbedáhpe árb-be-dáh-pe barggovuogijt barg-go-vuo-gijt rijkadajva rij-ka-daj-va ássjedåbdde ás-sje-dåbd-de láhkaásadimesa láh-ka-á-sa-di-me-sa giellalágajn giel-la-lá-gajn sámegiellaj sá-me-giel-laj buorrelágásj buor-re-lá-gásj árbbedábálattjat árb-be-dá-bá-lat-tjat láhkatæksta láh-ka-tæks-ta guosski guoss-ki rijkalattjat rij-ka-lat-tjat organisásjåvnån or-ga-ni-sá-sjåv-nån hábbmidime hább-mi-di-me rábmakonvensjåvnå ráb-ma-kon-ven-sjåv-nå árvvalasstet árv-va-lass-tet ássjedåbddejuogos ás-sje-dåbd-de-juo-gos unneplågogielajt un-nep-lå-go-gie-lajt láhkaásadimesa láh-ka-á-sa-di-me-sa biejvveavijsav biejv-ve-a-vij-sav sámegiellaj sá-me-giel-laj unneplågogielajn un-nep-lå-go-gie-lajn ministarjuohkusis mi-nis-tar-juoh-ku-sis guosski guoss-ki Dussnagiehtje Duss-na-gieh-tje Divtasvuodna Div-tas-vuod-na Gåhpejávrre Gåh-pe-jávr-re Gásluokta Gás-luok-ta Helmukvuodna Hel-muk-vuod-na Ibboluokta Ib-bo-luok-ta Julevædno Ju-lev-æd-no Jåhkmåhkke Jåhk-måhk-ke Jåkmåhkke Jåk-måhk-ke Jåhkåmåhkke Jåh-kå-måhk-ke Missing hyph points (/): ------------------------ Jienastim#njuolgadusá Jie/nas/tim#njuol/ga/du/sá (# not removed from input) sierralágásj sier-ra/lá/gásj orgánajs or-gá/najs Orgánajs Or-gá/najs Incorrect (#): -------------- javllamáno ja#vl-la/má/no biejvveávijsav bie#jv/ve/á-vij/s#av suomagiella su#o-ma-giel-la sierraláhkáj sier-ra#láh-káj PLX XFST code: -------------- javl^la#má^no NIE javl^la#má^no GaIOE or^gá^najs NIE suo^ma#giel^la- NIE suo^ma#giel^la- NBOX suo^ma#giel^la NIOE suo^ma#giel^la NBO }}} __TODO:__ * {{sme->smj}} lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources, and increase {{smj}} coverage (__Trond, Thomas, Svenne__). Add the words. * test hyphenation (__Sjur, Thomas__) !!!7. Name lexicon infrastructure Delayed till Divvun2 (or after release of Divvun1). Decisions made in Tromsø can be found in [this meeting memo.|/doc/admin/physical_meetings/tromso-2006-08-propnoun.html] __TODO:__ # fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (__Saara__) # finish first version of the editing (__Sjur__) # test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: (__Sjur, Thomas, Trond__) # make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob as well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g. propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (__Sjur, Saara__) # convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files (__Sjur, Tomi, Saara__) # implement data synchronisation between [risten.no|http://www.risten.no] and the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the official one; also local installations could be treated the same way) # start to use the xml file as source file # clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use (e.g. @type=secondary) (__Thomas, Maaren, linguists__) # merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki, Helsingfors, Helsset (__linguists__) # publish the name lexicon on risten.no (__Sjur__) # add missing parallel names for placenames (__linguists__) # add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils (__linguists__) !!!8. Proofing tools !!Hunspell Continuously improving. TODO: * Hunspell lexicon conversion (__Tomi, Børre__) !!Testing !Spelling Error Markup This will wait till after the release. __TODO:__ * Set up ways of adding meta-information (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not) (__Saara__) * move __Steinar's__ error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original (__Børre, Kimme__) * add nested error markup to xml conversion (__Saara__) * test new and nested error markup (__Sjur__) !Automated testing __TODO:__ * improve hyphenation testing (__Sjur__) ** not done yet !MS Office Windows was done = ok, Ilona has tested PowerPoint and Word on Mac, and Trond tested Excel (you have to turn on correction, otherwise it will give you English spell checking, it is the same for all languages). Entourage is still untested. __TODO:__ * test the proofing tools with all MS Office applications (__Børre, Thomas__) ** all but Entourage done (__Kimme, Børre__) *** Entourage ok * add Excel behaviour to the documentation (__Trond, Sjur__) ** done !!Lexicon conversion to the PLX format Open issues based on test results: sámi-dáru - not accepted => Gen+hyph compound, is not allowed with hyphen. We can allow such compounds without too much overgeneration by adding the hyphen to the last part, ie ''-dáru'' in the PLX entry. => Bugzilla as feature request. !smj * 419 - flagged, 1. sugg same as input => PLD bug * 482 - fixed * 484 - fixed * 518 - regression - Fuoskok = pl+clitic as well as derivation = won't fix ** stuorFuosskok, StuorFuosskok suggested, should not be (neither accepted) * 575 - name+name = double hyphens in sugg * 584 - input and sugg is the same * 589 - not fixed, sent to Polderland * Svierigadárogielan - fixed! !sme * 397 - fixed * 425 - roman number - will not be fixed in 1.0 release * 431 - fixed * 461 - ''ovda'' fixed * 489 - fixed * 518 - regression - plural same as derivation, won't fix ** ''stuorGuovdageainnut'' suggested, should not be ** ''Stuoraguovdageainnut'' flagged and suggested => PLD * 588 - regression - ''r.'' accepted as final part * 592 - cases of caritives on -heapmi * 397 - Guovdageaidnu-láđđi - fixed __TODO:__ * look at test cases still not behaving properly (__Thomas, Tomi__) * check that the {{smj}} R lexicon is identical to {{sme}} (__Thomas__) ** done !!InDesign tools Almost finished, found a bug (reported to Polderland). __TODO:__ * improve hyphenation testing (__Sjur__) * upload (__Sjur__) * documentation (__Børre, Sjur__) !!Hyphenators Testing! - Done, see above. !!Final release Schedule and tasks for the remaining weeks: This week: * Monday - fix remaining speller bugs * Tuesday - get Polderland updates/fixes, fix bug 550, documentation fixed * Wednesday - finish documentation, start translation * Thursday - finish translation, spell check and QA, travel plans ready * Friday - ready to burn/release; press release Next week: * Monday - regular meeting, sum up & check * Tuesday - we go to Oslo in the morning, meeting and preparations in the evening, our own celebration / dinner * Wednesday: ** 10 AM: ceremony, official delivery to SD president, potentially also minister ** 11 AM: official lunch, SD invites the minister for lunch ** after lunch - finished, we go home Hotel is booked, you have to arrange the travelling to Oslo yourself (but make sure the travel agency sends the bill to SD). __TODO:__ * set up CD-printing printer (__Risten, Leif Åge__) ** done and tested * fix Windows CD installation bug (__Sjur, Børre__) ** work-around should be documented (__Sjur__) * 100 covers will be picked up in Tromsø (__Børre__) ** done * Print 50 CDs, take them to Oslo as backup (__Risten, Julie__) ** not yet - today * fix remaining bugs - golden master by end of this Monday (__Tomi, Sjur__) ** done - GM last Friday * finalise InDesign hyphenator (__Sjur, Børre__) ** documentation *** not yet finished - after 1.0 release * update usage and installation documentation (__Børre, Thomas, Sjur__) ** search Bugzilla for documentation issues in Divvun => add to docu (__Thomas__) ** read the present documentation carefully, and see if there are missing parts => fill them in (__Børre__) ** documentation meeting on Wednesday (__Sjur, Børre, Thomas__) * new/updated front page (old front page to history page) (__Sjur, Børre__) * press release (__Sjur, Børre__) * translate all new documentation (__all__) * QA all documentation (__all__) * do as much hunspell as possible (__Børre, Tomi__) !!!9. Other !!Corpus contracts Delayed till after final release. TODO: * publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta (__Sjur__) !!Bug fixing When fixing bugs, record the version number containing the fix in the Bugzilla bug report, such that for each bug, we know exactly when it should have been fixed, in what file(s) and what version. __83__ open Divvun/Disamb bugs (__45__ of these 83 are speller-related bugs, __38__ are other bugs), and __23__ risten.no bugs !!!10. Next meeting, closing The next meeting is 10.12.2007, 09:30 Norwegian time. The meeting was closed at 10:09. !!!Appendix - task lists for the next week !!Boerre [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-12-10_Boerre.ics] * fix [bug 550|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=550] * finalise InDesign hyphenator * new/updated front page (old front page to history page) * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Ilona [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-12-10_Ilona.ics] * lexicalise {{smj}} missing words. * Help Trond with the {{smj}} dictionary. * Translation !!Maaren * lexicalise actio compounds !!Per-Eric [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-12-10_Per-Eric.ics] * check some unusual words from the Olavi missing list which are still not lexicalised * derivations tests * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Risten [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-12-10_Risten.ics] * Print 50 CDs, take them to Oslo as backup !!Saara [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-12-10_Saara.ics] * add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs * Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not) * add nested error markup to xml conversion * discuss more parallel texts !!Sjur [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-12-10_Sjur.ics] * document Windows CD installation work-around * finalise InDesign hyphenator * update usage and installation documentation * new/updated front page (old front page to history page) * press release * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Thomas [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-12-10_Thomas.ics] * {{sme->smj}} lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources * test hyphenation * analyse hyphenation test results * look at test cases still not behaving properly * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Tomi [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-12-10_Tomi.ics] * Hunspell lexicon conversion * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Trond [iCal|/doc/admin/weekly/2007/Tasks_2007-12-10_Trond.ics] * {{sme->smj}} lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources * analyse hyphenation test results * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla].