!!!Meeting notes, Pedagogical programs, 090110


!!!Participants

Lene, Saara, Trond.


!!!Grammar

!!Pedagogical grammar explanations

Remove the link to it for now, since it is not good enough.

!!sme-norm.fst - why does it not function? Makefile?

make fst-norm TARGET=sme

Lene does not get the sme-norm.fst compiled. The command is: 

Cf. [bugreport http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=765]

!!Coll nums included

{{{
LEXICON OVCCIS ! Collective numerals                                              
 +N+Coll+Sg+Nom:%>X4 K ;
 +N+Coll+Ess:%>X4in K ;
 +N+Coll:%>X2 MALLAS- ;
}}}

!!space disappears in the analysis of user feedback
TT fixed the files 

{{{
xml$grep " " *
grammarexplanation.csv:intransitivt verb	Verb som ikke kan ta objekt i akkusativ: ’mannat’
questions_nouns.xml:      <text>SUBJ MAINV čoavdagiid N-ILL</text>
questions_nouns.xml:      <text>INTERR SUBJ MAINV ságaid</text>
}}}

This has been a bug for a while

donháliidat is not a word

!!!Choosing of metalanguage 

!!Messages are translated into sme

!!!Write more instructions
- pronouns
- finite verb
- option boos vs semset
- semset: POS

!!!Leksa
sets vs. books - only one of them should function at a time

!!!Vasta

!!Gradation errors
lemma instead of id (form tag forgotten?)
  <entry id="bassi_actor">
    <lemma>bassi</lemma>
	<pos class="N"/>
    <translations>
      <tr xml:lang="nob">vasker</tr>
      <tr xml:lang="nob">reingjører</tr>
      <tr xml:lang="nob">rengjøringsassistent</tr>
      <tr xml:lang="fin">siivoja</tr>
    </translations>
    <semantics>
      <sem class="PROFESSION"/>
    </semantics>
    <stem class="bisyllabic" diphthong="no" gradation="no" soggi="i" rime="0"/>
    <dialect class=""/>
    <sources>
    </sources>
    <forms>
    <form tag="N+Sg+Gen">bassi</form>
    </forms>
  </entry>



valency vs. sem class - Lene makes them all "sem class"
    <valency>
      <val class=""/>
      <val class="COMV"/>
    <val class="TV"/></valency>
    <semantics>
       <sem class="VERBAL-V"/>
    </semantics>    


!!!Sahka
target="target"

ex.

{{{
  <topic name="work_adult">    
      <utt type="question" name="Leat_go_barggus_adult">
	<text>Leat go barggus?</text>
	<!-- Do you work??-->
	<alt target="pass" link="work_or_school_closing_adult"/>
	<alt target="pos" link="Makkár_bargu_dus_lea_adult"/>
	<alt target="default" link="work_or_school_closing_adult"/>
      </utt>
}}}

Question with non-expected answer:

How to identify &dia-target from  below into the <utt> block above.

{{{
"<Leat>"
	"leat" V IV Ind Prs Sg2 
"<go>"
	"go" Pcle 
"<barggus>"
	"bargu" N Sg Loc 
"<^qst>"
	"^sahka" QDL Leat_go_barggus_adult &dia-pos 
"<Juo>"
	"juo" Interj 
"<,>"
	"," CLB 
"<mun>"
	"mun" Pron Pers Sg1 Nom 
"<lean>"
	"leat" V IV Ind Prs Sg1 
"<doavttir>"
	"doavttir" N Sg Nom &dia-pass 
"<.>"
	"." CLB 
}}}

wordlists vs. word class

variable and grammar tag - change the text so it doesn´t need any grammar tag

* I come from Kenya-Loc
* I think Kenya-Nom is a nice place

(the answer just picks the Nom from the analysis of the answer)

!!!Graphical interface

!!youngsters with smaller pictures on Sahka frontpage

sahka file updated, let us have a look at the result.

!!!Maintenance

[Helpdocument http://giellatekno.uit.no/ped/maintenance.html]

{{{
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/mgame_n.html (Morfa for nouns) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/mgame_l.html (Morfa numerals) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/mgame_a.html (Morfa for adjectives) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/mgame_v.html (Morfa for verbs) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/quizz.html (Leksa common nouns) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/quizz_n.html (Leksa placenames) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/num.html (Numra cardinal) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/num_ord.html (Numra ordinals) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/vasta.html 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/sahka.html
}}}

Example: In order to write instructions for numra:

Open the document {{ped/oahpa/drill/templates/num.html}}

Edit instructions like

{{{
{% block gamename %}{% endblock %}
{% block instructions %}{% trans "add instructions here in English" %}{% endblock %}
}}}

In your own home directory, create the translations:

* cd ped/oahpa
* django-admin.py makemessages -a
* svn ci -m "new generated files" locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/django.po

... for the other files

Update the translations to the official page.

* cd /home/oahpa/
* svn up ped
* cd ped/oahpa/
* django-admin.py compilemessages

Insructions block is included:
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/game.html

The django template language is documented here:

http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/templates/


in oahpa/drill/templates/num.html

{{{
{% block instructions %}{% trans "Forms for numerals." %}{% endblock %}
   XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX             YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
}}}

And correspondingly, in oahpa/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/django.po

{{{
#: drill/templates/num.html:21
msgid "Forms for numerals."
msgstr "Anna numeraali perusmuodossa."
}}}

So, update the Ys and not the Xs in the string above.

ped/oahpa/media/images/



!!!Release week

!!Saara's and Antti's Tromsø trip

In Tromsø Wednesday until Sunday.

!tuesday:

* trond with European min lg charter group 11.00-12.00
* trond 30 min intro Giellatekno 13.00 at the library

{{{
tirsdag 3. februar 2009
Program:(innlagte "kaffepauser" mellom foredragene)
12.00 Velkommen
12.15 - 12.45 Minikurs i samisk ved Samisk språksenter i Ullsfjord
13.00 - 13.30 Foredrag ved Trond Trosterud om det samiske språkteknologiprosjektet Giellatekno
13.45 - 14.15 Foredrag ved Lene Hansen om boka "Storm på kysten"
14.30 - 15.00 Foredrag ved Åse Mette Johansen om mastergradsoppgaven/boka "Velkommen te våres Norge - En kvalitativ studie av
språkbytte og språkbevaring i Manndalen i Gáivuotna/Kåfjord."
}}}


!wednesday:
* Lene at course: Monday, Wed and Thur 10-12 and 13-15:

!thursday:

* Lene seminar
* Trond 15 min lecture

Kunne du tenke deg å bidra på samisk miniforskningsmaraton (kan hende vi endrer navnet) den 5. februar? Da tenker jeg på en presentasjon på 10-15 min som er populærvitenskapelig og med en tittel som er spenstig. Opplegget blir på aud 2, og innlegget må være på norsk


Do the release

Release party thursday.

!!PR

* Send a press release on the release on beforehand.
* The Labyrinth journalist

!!URL

this works:

* http://oahpa.uit.no/ => http://victorio.uit.no/

this is what we want:

* http://oahpa.uit.no/ => http://victorio.uit.no/oahpa/
* http://oahpa.no/ => http://victorio.uit.no/oahpa/



!!!Milestones, priorities during the last weeks

Think of things for an internal deadline monday the week before, or something.

!!!Task list

!!All
* Actively use Bugzilla

!!Lene
* valency vs. sem class - Lene makes them all "sem class" - done
* make rules for "dia-pass" tags - done
* variable and grammar tag - change the text so it doesn´t need any grammar tag - done
* visl update
* contact with Mona Solbakk
* write better/more instructions

!!Saara
* Temporarily remove the grammar explanation link
* dia-pass
* sets vs. books - only one of them should function at a time
* generation of tasks - form tag forgotten?
* reinstall feedback
* test with the interface language
* plan the trip to Tromsø
* forms in lexicon

!!Trond
* Test the empty cache option for change of metalanguage, report.
* Look at the template language
* fix sme-norm.fst (so it will accept "Mun")
* visl update
* contact with Else Grete


!!!Next meeting

Wednesday