Meeting, AKU Oahpa, 15.8.2014
Present: Heli, Jaska, Trond
!!!Agenda
* Status
* Participants
* Aika
!!!Status
!!Documentation
Documentation in russian is MT-translated: [http://oahpa.no/addlang/index.rus.html]
numra, morfa has been proofread.
__TODO__
* Correct [http://oahpa.no/addlang/developerleksa.rus.html]
** ped/userdocs/addlang/developerleksa.rus.xml
* Correct [http://oahpa.no/addlang/index.rus.html]
!!Budget
* Tromsø:
** Heli: 300€ hotel, ferry ticket, food, wages
** Trond: Matka, ruoka
* AKU
** Jaska.
** Jargal: room-n-board, travel
** Oleg Kazanin: room-n-board, travel
!!!Participants
* bxr
** Jargal Badagarov, Ulan Ude (rus, eng)
* izh
** Heinike Heinsoo (fin, rus, eng)
** Timo Rantakaulio? (fin, rus, eng)
* kpv
** Galina Punegova (=>Kokkonen), StPb (rus)
** Galina Misharina?, Hki (fin, rus, )
** Svetlana Lumme?, Turku (rus, fin, eng?)?
* mdf
** Oleg Kazanin, StPb (rus, eng)
* mhr
** Andrei Chemyshev?, Syktyvkar (rus, eng?)
* mrj
** Julia Kuprina, Hki (rus, fin, eng?)
* myv
** Ivan Ryabov, Saransk (rus, deu)
** Jelena Klementjeva, Saransk (rus)
* olo
** Natalia Giloeva, Jsuu (fin, rus)
* yrk
** Lotta Jalava, Hki (fin, eng, rus)
** Sven-Eerik Soosaar, Hki (fin, eng, rus)
* sms
** Eino Koponen, Hki
** Markus Juutinen, Hki
* udm
** Svetlana Yedigarova, Hki (fin, rus)
** Nadi Muš, Tln (est, rus, fin)
* vep
** -
* bxr
** Nothing yet
* izh
** Alpha
* kpv
** Old Oahpa from Bodø, some content (numra, leksa)
* mdf
** Alpha version of Leksa and Numra
* mhr
** Alpha version of Leksa and Numra
* mrj
** Alpha version of Leksa and Numra
** Lexical material incoming (Julia)
* myv
** Some more content, lemma: 35N, 19V, 12A, 12Prop
** MorfaS, MorfaC up and running
* olo
** So far no lexicon
* yrk
** Old Oahpa from Bodø.
* sms
** Appr. 100 words, Numra, Leksa
* udm
** Alpha
!!Languages with Oahpa setup
* bxr - no setup
* izh - [http://testing.oahpa.no/izh_oahpa]
* kpv - [http://oahpa.no/kpvoahpa]
* mdf - [http://testing.oahpa.no/mdf_oahpa]
* mhr - [http://testing.oahpa.no/mhr_oahpa]
* mrj - [http://testing.oahpa.no/mrj_oahpa]
* myv - [http://oahpa.no/erzya]
* olo - [http://testing.oahpa.no/olo_oahpa]
* sms - [http://oahpa.no/nuorti]
* udm - [http://testing.oahpa.no/udm_oahpa]
* vep - [http://testing.oahpa.no/vep_oahpa]
* yrk - [http://oahpa.no/yrkoahpa]
__TODO__:
Set up bxr_oahpa (__Heli__)
main/ped/userdoc/addlang
!!!Aika
!!!Technical preparations
Computers: Mac, Windows
SVN: checkin access to all participants
Jaska provides Trond with a list of
username realname e-mail-address contactinfo
* Windows setup
** TortoiseSVN
** EditPadLite
* Mac setup
** xcode
** svn
** SubEthaEdit
** Check out {{gtcore, lang/ownlanguage, ped}}
* Linux setup
* Gedit
__TODO__
* Ask participants about computer skills (Jaska MAKES and distributes: questionnaire: computer experience, command line, terminal, OAHPA, program vs. document, experience installing programs, internet vs. IE,...)
!!!Content
* Make and publish a program
* Make a webpage for the course x 2 (eng, rus) (__T, J__)
Things to do:
Giellatekno overview
targetlang_pos_semclass_rus1, rus2_fin1, fin2_eng
Ferdig semantisk sett
Ferdig sett av semantisk annoterte russiske ord?
{{{
кай_N_ANIMAL_чайка маленькая_small seagull
оа̄з_N_ANIMAL_паук_spider
пуар_N_ANIMAL_овод_gadfly
пуаз_N_ANIMAL_олень_reindeer
оа̄к_N_ANIMAL_лосиха_лосиха
пӯра_N_ANIMAL_птенцы_baby birds
кӣгк_N_ANIMAL_кукушка_cuckoo
те̄хммэ руччкесь_A_COLOR, CLOTHES_коричневый_brown
а̄лехь_A_COLOR, CLOTHES_синий_dark blue
чӯввесь а̄лехь_A_COLOR, CLOTHES_голубой_blue
8 ABSTRACT
3 ACTIVITY
2 ANIMAL
23 ANIMAL_DOM
24 ANIMAL_OTHER
23 ANIMAL_WILD
28 BIRD
3 BODYPART
93 BODY_OTHER
2 BUILDING
19 CHURCH_OTHER
7 CLOSE_PEOPLE
51 CLOTHES
2 COLOR
24 CUTLERY
55 DIM_SET
10 DRINK
4 FAMILY
40 FISH
11 FOOD
7 FOOD_DISH
32 FOOD_GROCERY
2 FOOD_OTHER
36 FOOD_TRADITIONAL
5 GRAMMAR_TERMINOLOGY
29 HANDICRAFT_MATERIAL
1 HANDICRAFT_MATERIALS
20 HANDICRAFT_PROD
12 HANDICRAFT_TOOLS
11 HEALTH_OTHER
1 HUMAN_RELATED
24 ILLNESS
15 INSECT
71 LIVING_PLACE
67 LIVING_PLACE_HOME
2 LIVING_PLACE_NATURE
13 MONTH
1 NAME_OTHER
17 NATURE
1 NUMBER
10 PEOPLE
3 PEOPLE_OTHER
41 PLACE_NATURE
42 PLACE_WATER
58 PLANT_OTHER
13 PROFESSION
66 RELATIVE
72 SCHOOL_EDUCATION
43 TIME_EXPRESSION
15 TRAVEL
29 WEATHER
12 WEEKDAY
}}}
Kildin Saami has 2849 nouns, a bit too much
Vi kan ta rus - eng - fin
{{{
поздравление
барабан
чум
зверь
молодежь
молоко
рыбпехь
платок
cloth
cloth_SME
klede
liina
vaate
Stoff
}}}
Sett at vi tar sjd_oahpa
For how many of the 2800 rus nouns in sjd_oahpa do we already have a myv parallel?
One possibility:
* Most common 1500 N + 500 V + 500 A in Russian (__Trond__)
* semclass from sjd_oahpa (__Heli__)
* Look them up in target lang and in fin, eng (__Heli__)
* Script leksa lexicon file from that (__Heli__)
* spend course on testing and refining (__Heli__)
Then add words not turning up.
* Phrases to Morfa-C:
* (puhua, kirjoittaa, lukea, laulaa, ymmärtää) + (suomi) =>MAINV LANG+Tra
!!!Next meeting
Aug 22nd 0900 Swedish time.