!!!Meeting, 7.3.2011 on the Barents project application

Present: Aleksej, Marina, Jack, Paula, Sjur, Trond


!!!Status quo 
(please fill inn, all of you):

We have a draft text here:

''~/plan/barents/admin/applications/NFR2011/draft.jspwiki''

Deadline NFR (Norwegian research council): 13.4.

Program for Northern Areas (which of several programs is still not clear)

!!!Discussion

* Practical: How to organize the writing
* Use SVN 
** (Aleksej: Help Marina with setting up TortoiseSVN)
** All: Make sure we have access to the Gt private svn area 

Børre should have fixed it by today. 
[Documentation|https://giellalt.uit.no/tools/docu-svn-user.html]

svn co https://gtsvn.uit.no/langtech/trunk main --username <your_username>

... where you have replaced <your_username> with the username you have aquired from the admin. This will enable you to check in your work. If you don't have a user name or just want to browse our code, just skip the username.

After you have checked out, please run the following script, and follow the on-screen instructions:

main/gt/script/gtsetup.sh

(and then answer "yes" when asked if you want the private files)

Aleksej/Marina: [Documentation|https://giellalt.uit.no/infra/setup-svn.html]

... and then the reference to the private



!!!The writing process

(The whole text (all languages, all chapters) = 10-15 pages, + the summary)

Share chapters between us (details below):

(the sub-chapters for Komi):

* Scientific perspectives of the Komi work (__Trond__)
** Analysers and why they are nice for us, corpora, ...
* Practical project goal for Komi (__Jaska__)
** dictionaries, spellers, hyphenators - later also machine translation etc.
* Linguistic content and linguistic work (__Paula__)
** what must be done
* Overview of broader Komi linguistic landscape (__Marina__)
** dialects, number of speakers, relationship with the majority language, vitality of the lang. community
* Komi norm (__Marina__)
** status, open issues, variation, who decides about the norm, etc.
** language-political consequences
* Practical organisation of the work in Syktyvkar (__Marina__)
** local head of team, team members (roles, not necessarily names)
* Komi budget (__Marina__)
** Sums and understanding of costs in Syktyvkar
** overhead should be covered by Syktyvkar? (the Russian part of the project costs?)

{{{
Sjurs question: is it a disadvantage not to include Nenets
=> The NFR may answer that question. <=
v Rossii: ne znaju - i do not know -
- Narjan Mar (in the Barents Regiom)
- Salekhard (bigger, but further away)
Lotta Jalava 
Tapani Salminen
}}}




!!!Content of the application:

Write separate chapters for each language, as indicated above

* Summary of the project (common)
* Content of the project (Komi)

* The project goal 
*analysers
*e-dictionary: 
** kv-ru, kv-fi, kv-en; 
** ru-kv (we can make an "intelligent" e-dictionary of whatever is accessible) 
*proofing tools

* We need to specify the situation for the Komi written norm. (__Marina+Paula__)
** is it fixed? -- yes.
** are there open issues?
** Komi-Zyrian <== "Komi"
** Komi-Permjak (= a different language with 7 more m-cases  and their own AO)
   komi-zyr analyser may be adapted into komi-permjak "for free" // without too much work
* basis for other, future applications (MT)
* Separate point: The scientific merits of the project
* analysers + syntactic analysis as basis for MT
* corpora as research data
* Terminology

* Task organisation, schedule:
** analysers
** corpus
** proofing tools
** dictionaries

* Practical organisation of the work in Syktyvkar (appr. 1/3 page or less?) 
** For example (this will also / perhaps rather be presented in the budget): 
** The partner in Syktyvkar= Syktyvkar State University (The Department of Komi Philology at Syktyvkar State University)
** The workers will use the University offices
** The employment costs will be paid by the project 

* Status quo
* Practical: How to organize the project
** Syktyvkar
** Lovozero
** Tromsø


!!!Next meeting

* For Komi group: Friday 11.3 at 2000 (M)
* For the whole group: 15.3 at 11.30 Msk)