!!!Meeting setup * Date: 10.11.2008 * Time: 09.30 Norw. time * Place: Internet * Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat !!!Agenda Cf. one of the following, depending on context: * the upper bar of the SEE window (provided you use the JSPWiki syntax mode) * the TOC in Forrest-rendered output, like HTML and PDF !!!Opening, agenda review, participants Opened at 10:12. Present: __Ciprian, David, Jovsset, Sjur, Thomas, Tomi__ Absent: __Børre, Trond__ Agenda accepted. !!!Updated task status since last meeting !!Børre * Make a divvun-tools download log * Automatize the making of the OOo extension package of the hunspell dicts ** done * check the hunspell test bench and tokenization errors * further investigate installation of dictionaries in NeoOffice ** done * setup iCal server on the XServe * make a 1-page, light version of the corpus contract, also in Swedish * work around crashing Hunspell bug in OOo 2.x/3.0 on Win/Mac ** done * e-mail about G5 repair status * infrastructure remake - news discussion ** ongoing * implement an easter egg (almost) identical to the Polderland one * discuss infra improvements for corpus rep administration in news * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Ciprian * close the open SVN repository at requested paths ** todo * make a test-all target that runs all tests we have (with Sjur and Trond) ** todo * define and document testing routines (with Sjur and Trond) ** todo * continue the dictionary infrastructure discussion (with __Sjur, Trond__) ** ongoing * improve processing of new corpus documents ** todo * make the pipeline of ''StarDict'' dictionary generation running on the Mac ** ongoing * update the Makefile for generating dictionaries (related to the dictionary infrastructure task) ** ongoing: some more tests needed, a bug has to be killed (proper nouns don't have the correct pos info in the dictionaries) * take care of the error logging during conversion process ** todo * look at the xml conversion quality ** todo * make a list of (general and special) problems related with converting docs into xml-format and adding them to the corpora ** todo * continue the search and testing of an appropriate tool for lexicon working (no xml-file editing via text editors!) ** ongoing * generate new sme:nob/nob:sme dictionaries in all formats, marking them as "Beta"-versions (Sjur's proposal to use an image background for that purpose) ** smenob is done (three issues: scalability of macdict version, formating of stardict version and the pos-bug mentioned above) * infrastructure remake - news discussion ** a new branch has to be made (with __Børre__ and __Tomi__) * short meeting to go through missing points before a dictionary release (with __Sjur, Trond__) ** still todo because there a couple of formating question * restructure the paradigme-generating scripts (keep the generalization in mind) ** done * add all South-Saami texts to the corpus repository by next monday (03.11.2008) ** Børre did it * discuss infra improvements for corpus rep administration in news ** I can now participate in the newsgroup * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] ** todo !!David * continue gathering {{sma}} corpus texts **ongoing *install and start use Omnipage to OCR books * stay in contact with''Sáminuorat'' about writing about the project and advertising. **not done *get the add done and bring it into Samenourat and Samefolket * gather orthographic decisions (with __Jovsset__) **done * make a 1-page, light version of the corpus contract, also in Swedish **not done * prepare a workshop on South Sámi orthography and grammar (__David__) **ongoing ** suggest dates ***done *** try to coordinate with the SGL so we meet together ** set up a preliminary agenda (__with Sjur__) ** prepare data for each topic (__with Sjur and Trond__) * make an add for our tools to go into Sámi newspapers (with __Jovsset__ **done * check the wordlist from the sma analyser **started *translate leaflet to sma (with __Jovsset__) **almost done !!Jovsset * get the list of verbs from the auhtors of''Verbh''. ** No answer from the authors. I have written a letter. * Write and translate leaflet text, add pictures. ** Almoste done. * Find a suitable infrastructure for the distribution of the CD version. Possible through the library bus, the language centres and common sami centres in all of Sápmi. ** Not done * write formal letter to translator of ''Gåessie dah jeatjebh åerieminie'' ** Not done. * make an add for our tools to go into Sámi newspapers (with __David__) ** Not done !!Per-Eric * transfer the {{smj}} texts by __Kurt Tore__ to our corpus repository * follow-up contracts from ''Nord-Salten avis'' and __Lena Davidsson__ * Plan a {{smj}} pr tour for our tools * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Saara * add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs * Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not) * implement the ped UI and functionality * infrastructure remake - news discussion !!Sjur * name db/risten.no ** meeting in Tromsø about risten.no * update the ''Changes'' document ** todo * follow-up on some Polderland-related bugs: 621, 630, 652 ** todo * InDesign documentation ** todo * make a test-all target that runs all tests we have (with __Trond, Ciprian__) ** todo * define and document testing routines (with __Trond, Ciprian__) ** todo * write leaflet text ** done * continue the dictionary infrastructure discussion (with __Ciprian, Trond__) ** done * reformulate the noun grammar like the verbs (with __Trond__) ** mostly done (odd-syllable nouns with no vowel changes left) * Contact ''Davvi Girji'' about cooperation on electronic dictionaries ** todo * subcontractor work for {{sma}} proofing tools, MS and Adobe versions ** todo * support and maintenance contract for {{sme}} and {{smj}}, MS+Adobe tools ** waiting for answer * Sámi languages as part of ''Norsk språkbank'' ** todo * make a 1-page, light version of the corpus contract, also in Swedish ** todo * contact MS Nordic, and ask them to include the Divvun tools in the next Office releases ** waiting for response from A Lona * integrate {{sma}} adjectives into the analyser (without morphology) ** done * set up a preliminary agenda for {{sma}} workshop (__with David__) ** started * prepare data for each topic at {{sma}} workshop (__with David and Trond__) ** briefly started in Tromsø (the aaltose vs ååltese case) * short meeting to go through missing points before a dictionary release (with __Ciprian, Trond__) ** todo * read and comment allaskuvla presentation ** done - looks great! * improve error markup in {{smj}} gold standard document (with __Thomas__) ** done * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Thomas * contact the head of ''DAUM'' ** talked to him ** contact ''Š'' *** written a mail, no reply yet * fine tune suggestions for Hunspell ** working on it * look at test cases still not behaving properly ** not anything this week * translate leaflet text ** mostly done * test leaflet installation instructions on Mac, Windows XP, Windows Vista ** done * work with presentation at Guovdageaidnu-symposia ** done * {{sme->smj}} lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources, and increase {{smj}} coverage ** not started yet * improve error markup in {{smj}} gold standard document (with __Sjur__) ** done * ask __Per-Eric__ about __Ulf Stefan Winka's__ texts ** done * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] ** not anything this week !!Tomi * document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion ** not done * fix double hyphen bugs ** not done * fix PL hyphenator bugs ** not done * fix PL and Hunspell conversion bugs ** done some * work with presentation at Guovdageaidnu-symposia ** done some * infrastructure remake - news discussion ** working on it * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Trond * Hunspell QA README and installation docs ** Not done. * Look at dictionaries pipeline * Plan recording for text-to-speech ** Done. * South Sámi verbs ** Done. * South Sámi adjectives ** Under way, progress * reformulate the noun grammar like the verbs (with __Sjur__) ** Done (mainly by __Sjur, David, Jovsset__) * make a 1-page, light version of the corpus contract, also in Swedish ** Not done. * integrate {{sma}} adjectives into the analyser (without morphology) ** Under way, progress * infrastructure remake - news discussion ** Much done, but Makefile not working. * prepare data for each topic at {{sma}} workshop (__with David and Sjur__) ** Not done. * short meeting to go through missing points before a dictionary release (with __Ciprian, Sjur__) ** Well, last word not said here. * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla]. !!!Pedagogical software online Meeting memos can be found at [http://giellatekno.uit.no/ped/index.html#Meeting+memos] !!!Corpus gathering __TODO:__ * continue gathering {{sma}} corpus texts (__David, Jovsset__) ** Waiting for the contract from of one the translotors of __Gun Utsi's__ book. She will sign it and send it to me. ** going to OCR-scanning some books, of Ella Holm Bull and Anna Jakobsen, as soon as the contracts are in place * gather the {{smj}} texts from __Kurt Tore__ (__Per-Eric__) * other contacts: Lena Davidsson, daughter to Lars-Matto Tuolja * ask __Per-Eric__ about the texts of __Ulf Stefan Winka__ (__Thomas__) ** done * meet with the Sámi publishers (meeting delayed) (__Jovsset__) ** removed/delayed until we know something about it * add incoming {{sma}} texts to the corpus rep (__Børre, Ciprian__) ** done * make a 1-page, light version of the contract, also in Swedish (__Børre, David, Sjur, Trond__) * discuss infra improvements for corpus rep administration (__Børre, Ciprian__) * contact the head of ''DAUM'' (__Thomas__) ** talked to him, I do not think they have many texts we can use. The texts are mostly old hand-written stuff and phonological transkriptions. But he is going to check what they have and I do not think there are any problems to get texts, if there are texts. * gather the {{smj}} texts from ''Nord-Salten avis'' (online archive) (__Thomas__) !!!Promoting Divvun __TODO:__ * Make a download log (__Børre__) * use a newspaper or something to write about the tools from an end-user point of view (a review in ''Š, Ávvir''?) ** contact __Astrid Helander__ at ''Ávvir'' for a project interview (__Thomas__) *** written her a mail, she has not answered ** contact ''Nordsalten avis'' (__Thomas__) *** Nordsalten avis forwarded me to ''divte media as'', who translates their texts, written them a mail, have not got answer. *** hopefully they will cover the presentation next week *** the Sámi texts are freely available online ** contact ''Š'' (__Thomas__) *** written a mail, no reply yet * consider the best way to inform potential users in Sweden about the Divvun tools (__David__) ** __David__ has suggested to announce in ''Sáminuorat'' and ''Samefolket'' ** preferably get an article in the papers at the same time, about the project and the tools ** make an add for our tools to go into newspapers (__David, Jovsset__) * Prepare for a coordinated info campaign when Ped is ready (inform teachers about Divvun as well as Ped when we inform about Ped) - next year * plan a Tour de Divvun ({{smj}} info tour) (__Thomas, Per-Eric__) ** planned, will be held next week ** ask __Leif Åge__ to burn & print some CD's (__Thomas__) * make leaflet to inform about the project (__Jovsset, David__) ** first draft available at {{xtdoc/sd/src/documentation/content/xdocs/leaflet/leaflet.sv.jspwiki}} as well as [http://www.divvun.no/leaflet/leaflet.sv.html] ** we won't be able to finish the leaflet this week, but still ASAP: *** talk to __John Markus Kuhmunen__ for tips, (__Jovsset__) *** {{sme}} translation of main text (__Thomas__) *** {{fin}} translation (__Tomi__) *** add link to OOo installation and usage instructions (__Sjur__) *** add Linux info (__Børre__) *** add InDesign text (__Sjur__) *** review the Windows pictures, and usage instructions for MS Office XP (__Jovsset__) *** make bilingual Word-version for the Divvun tour in __Divtasvuodna__ (__Thomas, Sjur__) * distribute CD version through the library bus, the language centres and common sami centres in all of Sápmi. Gaaltije in Östersund for example. (__Leif Åge, Jovsset__) * contact MS Nordic, and ask them to include the Divvun tools in the next Office releases (both Windows and Mac). The integration can/should be done by Polderland, which is an official MS subcontractor/integrator. It could be used by MS as part of their advertising for the next releases, and it will make it much easier for people to get access to the tools. (__Sjur__) !!!Future plans, directions and ideas See a separate document in {{plan/strat/5year.jspwiki}}. !!!Infrastructure To accomodate future enhancements in different directions (in rough order of importance): # test bench for all parts of our language technology efforts ## test bench enhanced, but not yet complet # set up the Leopard Server features for collaborative support: ## permanent chat rooms ## stored (and indexed) chat transcripts of the chat rooms ## iCal server / group calendars ## wiki # wiki? on G5 (is part of Leopard Server) or other web-based documentation # improve Forrest stability and i18n support ( the divvun crashes) ## __Sjur__ has been working on better i18n and pdf rendering ## __Børre__ has some ideas for getting back to serving static html files # reorganise the documentation: ## differ between target groups ## get better grouping ## decide what to write in forrest and what in wiki (cf. [Apertium|http://www.apertium.org/] and [http://xixona.dlsi.ua.es/apertium/]) for a similar split) ## update/add missing parts # migrate lexc lexicons to XML, splitting the task ## Name lexica (the Name project) ## Dictionaries (already in XML, task is to integrate them) ## At least migrate the lexc open POSes (Komi as a pilot case) # change the look of the documentation web # sfst? ## replacement for xfst -> see [omorf |http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/kieliteknologia/tutkimus/omor/index.shtml], [omorf wiki|https://kitwiki.csc.fi/twiki/bin/view/KitWiki/HfstHome] and [omorfi|https://gna.org/projects/omorfi] ## replacement for hunspell/open-source proofing tools # investigate the [NSIS installer|http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Main_Page], potentially replacing the InstallShield package from Polderland # corpus content moved to Max Planck repositories? Norsk språkbank? # update infrastructure to allow content-restricted spellers for special target groups SVN issues: * http access not yet available (https only at the moment, but it works as anonymous checkout if the user is ''not'' specified) * read access to the whole repo is working, BUT: ** {{gt/*/polderland}} should be protected ** {{plan}} should be protected * certain users need to be on the UiT VPN to be able to commit (bug #705) * UTF-8 problem in svn commit mails: the commit log text is garbled __TODO:__ * infrastructure remake: (__Børre, Ciprian, Saara, Sjur, Tomi, Trond__) ** to be discussed in news first *** discussed in Tromsø last week ** more modularised make / build infra (prepare for smn, sms, sjd, others) *** first attempts failed, will be put in a separate branch, and cont. there ** merge gt, kt and st into one ** modularised preprocess and spellrelax * make a test-all target that runs all tests we have (__Ciprian, Sjur, Trond__) ** delayed until we have restructured the make/build process * define and document testing routines (__Ciprian, Sjur, Trond__) ** delayed until we have restructured the make/build process * follow-up migration to svn: ** close the open SVN repository at requested paths (__Ciprian__) *** completely closed at the moment, until we have solved the path-based control ** prepare and discuss with external users: Jack Ruether (__Trond__) * setup iCal Server (on XServe) (__Børre__) ** depends on the G5 returning * repair the G5 (__Børre__) ** still waiting for the machine to be repaired !!!Linguistics !!North Sámi (nothing new, see proofing bugs below) http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=711 !!Lule Sámi (nothing new, see proofing bugs below) __TODO:__ * {{sme->smj}} lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources, and increase {{smj}} coverage (__Trond__). * Add the words when all words are ready. !!South Sámi A lot of work done on the {{sma}} analyser last week in the Tromsø gathering. It should be ready for major leaps forward soon (compounding, derivation). __TODO:__ * integrate adjectives into the analyser, without morphology as a starting point (__Trond, Sjur__) ** partially done * reformulate the noun grammar like the verbs (__Sjur, Trond__) ** mostly done (by __David, Jovsset Sjur__) * prepare a workshop on South Sámi orthography and grammar (__David__) ** suggest dates: *** last week of February (23.-27.) seems to work fine with SGL/South Sámi branch ** we'll cover travel and hotel expenses ** we'll invite both SGL and as many of the other key persons in the {{sma}} writing/normativity community as possible ** set up a preliminary agenda (__David, Sjur__) ** prepare data for each topic (__David, Sjur, Trond__) ** make a folder to collect all relevant documents and data (__David, Sjur__) * clean the {{smanob}} data (__Trond__ with some help) !!!Name lexicon/risten.no infrastructure From the meeting with the terminology and IT teams last week: * no major rework on the present search interface now * no work on the editing section; instead: * add existing lists of sanctioned terminology as separate term entities * add a dictionary if we can make one with sufficient quality This means the following tasks: * find already approved lists, in paper or electronic form (term team) * convert paper lists to electronic lists (term team) * convert lists to standard XML (__Sjur, Tomi__) * add prepared lists to risten.no (__Sjur, Tomi__) __TODO:__ # fix i18n bug in risten.no/G5 (so they will work without the proper locale request) (__Sjur__) # fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (__Saara__) # finish first version of the editing (__Sjur__) # test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: (__Sjur, Thomas, Trond__) # make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add {{nob}} as well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g. propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (__Sjur, Saara__) # convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files (__Sjur, Tomi, Saara__) # implement data synchronisation between [risten.no|http://www.risten.no] and the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the official one; also local installations could be treated the same way) # start to use the xml file as source file # clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use (e.g. @type=secondary) (__Thomas, linguists__) # merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki, Helsingfors, Helsset (__linguists__) # publish the name lexicon on risten.no (__Sjur__) # add missing parallel names for placenames (__linguists__) # add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils (__linguists__) !!Dictionaries __Ciprian__ is working hard on it. __TODO:__ * Continue the dictionary infrastructure discussion (__Ciprian, Sjur, Trond__) * make simple installer applications * make a public release ** Make a homepage with instructions for dictionary use: {{xtdoc/gtuit/src/documentation/content/xdocs/dict.eng.xml}} ** Clarify the difference between local and online dictionaries: *** Plugin for Firefox and Internet Explorer (online dictionaries) * Contact Davvi Girji about cooperation on electronic dictionaries (__Sjur__) * short meeting to go through missing points before a release (__Ciprian, Sjur, Trond__) !!!Proofing tools !!Hunspell __TODO:__ * QA README and installation docs - report (__Trond__) * check the hunspell test bench and tokenization errors (__Børre, Sjur__) * create a make target for OOo extension packages of the spellers (__Børre__) ** done (?) * implement an easter egg (almost) identical to the Polderland one (__Børre__) * work around crashing bug in Hunspell 1.1.x series (found in OOo 2.x and 3.0 on Mac & Win, perhaps other places) (__Børre__) ** done, but only working in OOo 3.x * fine tune suggestions (__Børre, Thomas__) ** progressing !!OpenXSpell Working everywhere (almost) in MacOS X applications, provides Sámi spell checking system-wide through a hunspell back-end. [OpenXSPell|http://www.cygnusblack.co.uk/openxspell/index.html] There are two issues: * strings with non-ASCII chars are always flagged * asking for suggestions crashes OpenXSpell !!Testing !Spelling Error Markup __TODO:__ * Set up ways of adding meta-information (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not) (__Saara__) * test new and nested error markup (__Sjur__) !Speller testing __TODO:__ * improve error markup in {{smj}} gold standard document (__Sjur, Thomas__) ** done * check ccat, whether it allows specification of error type to be extracted or considered when doing gold-standard testing (__Tomi__) !!Speller updates __TODO:__ * compile new spellers (__Tomi__) !!Speller bugs List of bugs returned from Polderland: 621, 630, 652, 656, 676. Open issues based on test results: !sme Version: __Davvisámi, version 1.0.1, 2008-10-22__ * 397 - name compounds, their derivations, other compounds - one word left (''suopmasápmelaš''), still __OPEN__ * 435 - roman numbers - inflection of single letter numbers rejected, as well as some complex numbers (but is ok in {{smj}}) - still __OPEN__ ** we should pregenerate all numbers once and for all, and store them in a separate lexicon file * 449 - ''suopmasápmelaš'' comps wrongly accepted - still __OPEN__ * 581 - consonant doubling - still __OPEN__ * 593 - Missing words in beta 2 - one word left (''Nuppelohkái''), still __OPEN__ * 595 - prefix+name without hyphen (''ovdaLot'' instead of ''ovda-Lot'') - still __OPEN__ * 597 - does not recognize nubbelohki - still __OPEN__ * 599 - numeral attr:s on lot - ''oktalot'' not recognized - still __OPEN__ * 603 - suomabealdi accepted - still __OPEN__ * 610 - duhát words missing - ''oktanuppelotduhát'' remaining - still __OPEN__ * 611 - double hyphen sugg still accepted - still __OPEN__, but no double hyphens * 613 - short gen. as second compound part - still __OPEN__ * 619 - numerals and pronouns to NAMÁK and SASJ fails - ''vihttasoarttat'' remaining, still __OPEN__ * 629 - ''a'' taking part in compounding without hyphen - still __OPEN__ * 631 - number compound, numbers starting with 0 - still __OPEN__ * 633 - double hyphens accepted - no double hyphens, but __OPEN__ case * 642 - oun/adj/proper + hyphen + ain - still __OPEN__ * 644 - cased numeral+numeral compund - still __OPEN__ * 647 - numerals+NOUN - still __OPEN__ * 655 - pron + nai - still __OPEN__, 'makkár+nai' missing * 696 - numerals + NAMAT-adjs + vuohta - still __OPEN__ * 697 - +N+Der1+Der/laš+A+Der3+Der/vuohta - still __OPEN__ * 717 - noun-acro compounds (juovla-CD) - still __OPEN__ * 728 - vowel shortening GenCmp+Left-tagged - still __OPEN__ * 739 - Rmiddle-words accepted as first part of compound as well - still __OPEN__ !smj Version: __Julevsáme, version 1.0.1, 2008-10-16__ * 435 - roman number - single letter numbers now recognised ** we should pregenerate all numbers once and for all, and store them in a separate lexicon file ** please note that ''inflection'' of single letter numerals is __fine__ in {{smj}}, as opposed to {{sme}} * 595 - __REGRESSION:__ prefix+name as split comp without hyphen * 599 - numeral attr:s on lot - still __OPEN__ * 600 - gen+hyph compound ''sáme-dáro'' - __FIXED__ * 616 - Bispadime-me-ráden - still __OPEN__, try to find an acro or abbr ''me'' * 629 - ''a'' taking part in compound - still __OPEN__ * 631 - __REGRESSION:__ number compound, numbers starting with 0 - still __OPEN__ * 644 - cased numeral+numeral compund - still __OPEN__ * 647 - numerals+NOUN - still __OPEN__ * 648 - unmotivated suggestions with numeral+noun - still __OPEN__ * 649 - name + adj compound without hyphen - __FIXED__ * 650 - noun prefix+name compound without hyphen - still __OPEN__ * 652 - __REGRESSION:__ UPPERCASE-typos only get acronym-suggestions - still __OPEN__ * 692 - numeral-variants - still __OPEN__ * 717 - noun-acro compounds - still __OPEN__ __TODO:__ * document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion (__Tomi__) !!Hyphenator bugs Open issues based on test results : !sme Lexicon version: __Davvisámi, version 1.0.1, 2008-04-01__ * 468 - __REGRESSION:__''Márkomeanu'' - __OPEN__ * 547 - __REGRESSION:__ hyphen in front of vowel: ''Lotnolasealáhusas'' - __OPEN__ * 548 - __REGRESSION:__ mid syllable hyphenation: ''Háliidivččen'' - __OPEN__ * 549 - __REGRESSION:__ division without hyph: ''Váccedettiin'' * 673 - adj-derivations: ''guovttenuppelotčoarvvagiin'' (the word is not rec.) * 677 - __NEW:__ Wrongly hyphenated ending -danidja - invalid - __FIXED__ !smj Lexicon version: __Julevsáme, version 1.0.1, 2008-04-01__ * 545 - __REGRESSION:__ bad hyphenation in compounds: ''åhpadusorganisásjåvnån'' (not recognised) - __FIXED__ * 546 - __REGRESSION:__ obligatory hyph rules seem to work in facultative manner: ''organisásjåvnån'' (not recognised) - __FIXED__ * 547 - __REGRESSION:__ hyphen in front of vowel: ''Jienastimnjuolgadusá'' and ''Orgánajs'' __TODO:__ * fix PL hyphenator errors (__Tomi__) !!InDesign tools Nothing new. !!Releases __TODO:__ * update the ''Changes'' document (__Sjur__) * InDesign documentation (__Sjur__) ** Norwegian translation received from Davvi Girji * prepare 1.1 release soon !!!Other !!Sámi week in Tromsø __Sigbjørn Skåden__ has asked the UiT gang to demonstrate etc at the Tromsø city Library as a part of that week and the happenings at the Library. The week around February 6th (February 2-8). Sounds like a good idea, we will be there. * ped tools * Sámi dictionaries * Sámi proofing tools * other things? !!Gathering We gathered and did a lot of good work, as well as some work-out:) !!Forthcoming Sámi allaskuvla conference Info on the [conference site|http://www.samiskhs.no/index.php?c=304&kat=Giellasymposia]. Title submitted is: ''Goallosteapmi ja suorggideapmi Divvun-reaidduin'' __TODO:__ * translate presentation (__Tomi__) * read and comment presentation (__Sjur__) ** done !!Text to speech Recording is done (Biret Ánne the local hero), the first alpha, or rather the quality is so good let us call it a beta has been made (Antti the Helsinki hero). Next step is to take one more round on improvements and do one rerun before the Sámediggi october meeting. Antti has hinted at the possibility of doing beta versions of other languages as well. We are thus now recording Greenlandic sentences. A further possibility would be smj, sma, this would require phon-smX.xfst files for these languages as well (a couple of days' work for smj, more for sma), plus recording. __TODO:__ * Make a second round of improvements. * Consider more languages (pro-et-con for all-in-one-step vs. one banana fly first, the optimal choice is not obvious). !!Corpus contracts + open source Postponed until the svn repository is fully functional (it is too open now). !!!Next meeting, closing The next meeting is 17.11.2008, 9.30 Norwegian time. Tomi will be away in Guovdageaidnu Tuesday noon - Friday this week. The meeting was closed at 11:50. !!!Appendix - task lists for the next five days !!Boerre * leaflet: add Linux info (__Børre__) * Make a divvun-tools download log * check the hunspell test bench and tokenization errors * setup iCal server on the XServe * make a 1-page, light version of the corpus contract, also in Swedish * e-mail about G5 repair status * {{gt/Makefile}} remake * implement an easter egg (almost) identical to the Polderland one * discuss infra improvements for corpus rep administration in news * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Ciprian * close the open SVN repository at requested paths * make a test-all target that runs all tests we have (with Sjur and Trond) * define and document testing routines (with Sjur and Trond) * continue the dictionary infrastructure discussion (with __Sjur, Trond__) * improve processing of new corpus documents * make the pipeline of ''StarDict'' dictionary generation running on the Mac * update the Makefile for generating dictionaries (related to the dictionary infrastructure task) * take care of the error logging during conversion process * look at the xml conversion quality * make a list of (general and special) problems related with converting docs into xml-forat and adding them to the corpora * continue the search and testing of an appropriate tool for lexicon working (no xml-file editing via text editors!) * generate new sme:nob/nob:sme dictionaries in all formats, marking them as "Beta"-versions (Sjur's proposal to use an image background for that purpose) * infrastructure remake - news discussion * short meeting to go through missing points before a dictionary release (with __Sjur, Trond__) * discuss infra improvements for corpus rep administration in news * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!David * continue gathering {{sma}} corpus texts * stay in contact with''Sáminuorat'' about writing about the project and advertising. * make a 1-page, light version of the corpus contract, also in Swedish * prepare a workshop on South Sámi orthography and grammar (__David__) ** set up a preliminary agenda (__with Sjur__) ** prepare data for each topic (__with Sjur and Trond__) * make an add for our tools to go into Sámi newspapers (with __Jovsset__) * make a folder to collect all relevant documents and data for {{sma}} seminar !!Jovsset * get the list of verbs from the auhtors of''Verbh''. * Write and translate leaflet text, add pictures. Talk to __John Marcus Kuhmunen __ about the design. * Find a suitable infrastructure for the distribution of the CD version. Possible through the library bus, the language centres and common sami centres in all of Sápmi. * write formal letter to translator of ''Gåessie dah jeatjebh åerieminie'' * make an add for our tools to go into Sámi newspapers (with __David__) and talk to __john marcus kuhmunen__ about the design. * leaflet: review the Windows pictures, and usage instructions for MS Office XP !!Per-Eric * transfer the {{smj}} texts by __Kurt Tore__ and __Ulf Stefan Winka__ to our corpus repository * follow-up contract from __Lena Davidsson__ * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Saara * add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs * Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not) * implement the ped UI and functionality !!Sjur * name db/risten.no * update the ''Changes'' document * follow-up on some Polderland-related bugs: 621, 630, 652 * InDesign documentation * make a test-all target that runs all tests we have (with __Trond, Ciprian__) * define and document testing routines (with __Trond, Ciprian__) * continue the dictionary infrastructure discussion (with __Ciprian, Trond__) * finish reformulating the noun grammar like the verbs (with __Trond__) * Contact ''Davvi Girji'' about cooperation on electronic dictionaries * subcontractor work for {{sma}} proofing tools, MS and Adobe versions * support and maintenance contract for {{sme}} and {{smj}}, MS+Adobe tools * Sámi languages as part of ''Norsk språkbank'' * make a 1-page, light version of the corpus contract, also in Swedish * contact MS Nordic, and ask them to include the Divvun tools in the next Office releases * set up a preliminary agenda for {{sma}} workshop (__with David__) * prepare data for each topic at {{sma}} workshop (__with David and Trond__) * short meeting to go through missing points before a dictionary release (with __Ciprian, Trond__) * make bilingual Word-version for the Divvun tour in __Divtasvuodna__ * leaflet: add link to OOo installation and usage instructions * leaflet: add InDesign text * make a folder to collect all relevant documents and data for {{sma}} seminar * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Thomas * ask __Leif Åge__ to burn & print some CD's * make bilingual Word-version for the Divvun tour in __Divtasvuodna__ * translate leaflet * gather the {{smj}} texts from ''Nord-Salten avis'' (online archive) * fine tune suggestions for Hunspell * look at test cases still not behaving properly * {{sme->smj}} lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources, and increase {{smj}} coverage * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Tomi * leaflet: {{fin}} translation * document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion * fix double hyphen bugs * fix PL hyphenator bugs * fix PL and Hunspell conversion bugs * work with presentation at Guovdageaidnu-symposia * infrastructure remake * check ccat, whether it allows specification of error type to be extracted or considered when doing gold-standard testing * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Trond * Hunspell QA README and installation docs * Look at dictionaries pipeline * South Sámi adjectives * make a 1-page, light version of the corpus contract, also in Swedish * integrate {{sma}} adjectives into the analyser (without morphology) * infrastructure remake * prepare data for each topic at {{sma}} workshop (__with David and Sjur__) * short meeting to go through missing points before a dictionary release (with __Ciprian, Sjur__) * clean the {{smanob}} data * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla].