!!!Meeting setup * Date: 24.11.2008 * Time: 09.30 Norw. time * Place: Internet * Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat !!!Agenda Cf. one of the following, depending on context: * the upper bar of the SEE window (provided you use the JSPWiki syntax mode) * the TOC in Forrest-rendered output, like HTML and PDF !!!Opening, agenda review, participants Opened at 09:51. Present: __Børre, Ciprian, David, Jovsset, Sjur, Thomas, Tomi, Trond__ Absent: __none__ Agenda accepted. !!!Updated task status since last meeting !!Børre * leaflet: add Linux info (__Børre__) ** Not done * Make a divvun-tools download log ** Not done * check the hunspell test bench and tokenization errors ** Not done * setup iCal server on the XServe ** Not done * e-mail about G5 repair status ** Found the G5! * {{gt/Makefile}} remake ** Imported Greenlandic, have been working on integrating it * implement an easter egg (almost) identical to the Polderland one ** Done. Found in the 1.0beta4 packages on our website * fine tune suggestions ** Some work done * improve OOo instructions ** Not done * screenshots for MS Office 2003 ** Not done * meeting Wednesday at 9.30 Norw. time re make remake ** Done * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Ciprian * close the open SVN repository at requested paths ** todo * continue the dictionary infrastructure discussion (with __Sjur, Trond__) ** todo * improve processing of new corpus documents ** todo * make the pipeline of ''StarDict'' dictionary generation running on the Mac ** ongoing work * update the Makefile for generating dictionaries (related to the dictionary infrastructure task) ** ongoing work * take care of the error logging during conversion process ** todo * look at the xml conversion quality ** todo * make a list of (general and special) problems related with converting docs into xml-forat and adding them to the corpora ** todo * continue the search and testing of an appropriate tool for lexicon working (no xml-file editing via text editors!) ** ongoing work * generate new sme:nob/nob:sme dictionaries in all formats, marking them as "Beta"-versions (Sjur's proposal to use an image background for that purpose) ** for nobsme, intelligence (inflection/grammar infos) have to be put in there ** smenob done, but still todo: *** formating issues with StarDict (unlike with macDict, where the index is lemma+pos, the index in StarDict is only the lemma (= entry)) *** optimization for macDict * infrastructure remake - news discussion ** started the work with __Børre__, __Sjur__ and __Trond__ * short meeting to go through missing points before a dictionary release (with __Sjur, Trond__) ** still waiting for feedback for improving the last smenob version * dictionary discussion on estethics, layout (with __Trond__) ** see items just above * meeting Wednesday at 9.30 Norw. time re make remake ** done * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] ** todo !!David * continue gathering {{sma}} corpus texts ** ongoing * stay in contact with''Sáminuorat'' about writing about the project and advertising. ** nothing done * prepare a workshop on South Sámi orthography and grammar (__David__) ** ongoing ** set up a preliminary agenda (__with Sjur__) *** nothing done last week ** prepare data for each topic (__with Sjur and Trond__) *** working with derivations * finnish going through the list from the analysor ** done * call __Ristin Persson__ for permission to use Sámi Radio texts ** havn't reached her yet * integrate adjectives into the analyser, without morphology as a starting point ** nothing done last week !!Jovsset * get the list of verbs from the auhtors of''Verbh''. ** No response so far * Write and translate leaflet text, add pictures. Talk to __John Marcus Kuhmunen __ about the design. ** In progress * Find a suitable infrastructure for the distribution of the CD version. Possible through the library bus, the language centres and common sami centres in all of Sápmi. ** In progress * write formal letter to translator of ''Gåessie dah jeatjebh åerieminie'' ** Not done * make an add for our tools to go into Sámi newspapers (with __David__) and talk to __john marcus kuhmunen__ about the design. ** Done * leaflet: review the Windows pictures, and usage instructions for MS Office XP ** Not done * Write installation instructions for word 2003. ** Not done !!Per-Eric * transfer the {{smj}} texts by __Kurt Tore__ and __Ulf Stefan Winka__ to our corpus repository * follow-up contract from __Lena Davidsson__ * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Saara * add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs * Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not) * implement the ped UI and functionality !!Sjur * name db/risten.no ** to be done * update the ''Changes'' document ** to be done * follow-up on some Polderland-related bugs: 621, 630, 652 ** to be done * InDesign documentation ** to be done * continue the dictionary infrastructure discussion (with __Ciprian, Trond__) ** to be done * finish reformulating the proper noun grammar like the verbs (with __Trond__) ** done, but would still need some work * Contact ''Davvi Girji'' about cooperation on electronic dictionaries ** to be done * subcontractor work for {{sma}} proofing tools, MS and Adobe versions ** requirements document written, most formalities checked, letter to be sent ASAP * support and maintenance contract for {{sme}} and {{smj}}, MS+Adobe tools ** reply received from PL - they're still expensive * Sámi languages as part of ''Norsk språkbank'' ** to be continued * contact MS Nordic, and ask them to include the Divvun tools in the next Office releases ** to be continued * set up a preliminary agenda for {{sma}} workshop (__with David__) ** to be done * prepare data for each topic at {{sma}} workshop (__with David and Trond__) ** to be done * short meeting to go through missing points before a dictionary release (with __Ciprian, Trond__) ** to be done * leaflet: add link to OOo installation and usage instructions ** not yet * leaflet: add InDesign text ** looked at it, nothing done * meeting Wednesday at 9.30 Norw. time re make remake ** done * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] * other things: ** went to Stockholm, to SLTC 2008, to present our proofing tools test bench !!Thomas * gather the {{smj}} texts from ''Nord-Salten avis'' (online archive) ** not done * fine tune suggestions for Hunspell ** working with it * look at test cases still not behaving properly ** not anything this week * {{sme->smj}} lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources, and increase {{smj}} coverage ** not anything this week * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] ** not anything this week !!Tomi * leaflet: installation instructions {{fin}} translation ** done (all?) * document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion ** not done * fix double hyphen bugs ** this should be checked * fix PL hyphenator bugs ** not done * fix PL and Hunspell conversion bugs ** worked with this one * infrastructure remake ** not done * check ccat, whether it allows specification of error type to be extracted or considered when doing gold-standard testing ** this should be working * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Trond * integrate {{sma}} adjectives into the analyser (without morphology) ** Nothing new this week * finish reformulating the proper noun grammar like the verbs (with __Sjur__) ** Main work done: The "old" continuation lexica are now removed. Todo: Split the propernouns according to foot structure. The job is already done, in sme, and we only need a better conversion procedure sme2sma for the common names. Then the sma-specific names must be split as well. * Revise the I-CLASS lexicon in {{sma-lex.txt}}. ** Done * Look at the {{sma}} missing list. ** Done the top-15-or-so * infrastructure remake ** Not much after last week. * prepare data for each topic at {{sma}} workshop (__with David and Sjur__) ** No meeting on this. * dictionary discussion on estethics, layout (with __Ciprian__) ** Some discussion, work in progress. * meeting to go through missing points before a dictionary release (with __Ciprian, Sjur__) ** No meeting on this. * clean the {{smanob}} data ** Not done. * meeting Wednesday at 9.30 Norw. time re make remake ** Fruitful meeting. * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla]. ** Fixed bugs. !!!Pedagogical software online Links to all games except the dialog game are now available online. A log facility is installed, and people are encouraged to test the games to provide feedback. Meeting memos can be found at [http://giellatekno.uit.no/ped/index.html#Meeting+memos] !!!Corpus gathering __TODO:__ * continue gathering {{sma}} corpus texts (__David, Jovsset__) ** nothing new since last meeting * transfer the {{smj}} texts by __Kurt Tore__ and __Ulf Stefan Winka__ to our corpus repository (__Per-Eric__) ** nothing * other contacts: Lena Davidsson, daughter to Lars-Matto Tuolja * make a 1-page, light version of the contract, also in Swedish (__Børre, David, Sjur, Trond__) ** delayed till we have some more time * discuss infra improvements for corpus rep administration (__Børre, Ciprian__) ** delayed till we are done with the {{gt/Makefile}} improvements * gather the {{smj}} texts from ''Nord-Salten avis'' (online archive) (__Thomas__) !!!Promoting Divvun Presentation: * ≈ 15 people present * most from Árran, some teachers from the local school * many at Árran had forgotten about the presentation Installed the tools on about 40 machines; Árran and schools. Big interest among people. Many of the school-computers already had Divvun installed, but some had the BETA-version, and many users had not really understood how to use it (like the __Identify language automatically__ thing, which had caused problems). On Árran it was just installed on a few computers (among others a north sámi one at Sámediggi who was very happy with it :-). Installation runs without problems but when testing on WORDS their are some problems when trying to use spell-checker while writing - on some machines the language-choice jumps back to Bokmål end English, and you have to mark everything to walk around this problem. Problem seems random and not only in some specific versions. On most machines however it runs without problems without ''select all''. Funny thing about Árran: there is a museum-ossodat and some of the computers there were really museum-like with Windows/Word 2000, and we were not able to install the tools on those machines :-) Improvements for the next tour de Divvun: * Hire Per-Eric to promote the tools full-time :) * we need Windows users in our team, so that we know more about the reality of our users __TODO:__ * Make a download log (__Børre__) ** this should move up on the priority list now, and be working before the 1.1 release * use a newspaper or something to write about the tools from an end-user point of view (a review in ''Š, Ávvir''?) ** follow-up ''Ávvir'' project interview (__Thomas__) *** ''Ávvir'' made a feature article of the conference in ''Guovdageaidnu'', with all the content focused on the Divvun tools and the ped project ** follow-up ''Š'' (__Jovsset__) * consider the best way to inform potential users in Sweden about the Divvun tools (__David__) ** __David__ has suggested to announce in ''Sáminuorat'' and ''Samefolket'' *** add sent to ''Samefolket'' - to appear in a week or two ** preferably get an article in the papers at the same time, about the project and the tools ** make an add for our tools to go into newspapers (__David, Jovsset__) *** done * Prepare for a coordinated info campaign when Ped is ready (inform teachers about Divvun as well as Ped when we inform about Ped) - next year ** targeted at the Sámi week next year * conduct Tour de Divvun ({{smj}} info tour) (__Thomas, Per-Eric__) ** done with success * make leaflet to inform about the project (__Jovsset, David__) ** talk to __John Markus Kuhmunen__ for tips, (__Jovsset__) ** {{fin}} translation (__Tomi__) *** the rest done ** better Windows usage descriptions, with emphasis on the pitfalls (__Jovsset__) ** add link to OOo installation and usage instructions (__Sjur__) ** improve OOo instructions (__Børre__) ** add Linux info (__Børre__) ** add InDesign text (__Sjur__) - requires installer ** review the Windows pictures, and usage instructions for MS Office 2003 (__Jovsset__) *** screenshots (__Børre__) *** text (__Jovsset__) * distribute CD version through the library bus, the language centres and common sami centres in all of Sápmi. Gaaltije in Östersund for example. (__Leif Åge, Jovsset__) * contact MS Nordic, and ask them to include the Divvun tools in the next Office releases (both Windows and Mac). The integration can/should be done by Polderland, which is an official MS subcontractor/integrator. It could be used by MS as part of their advertising for the next releases, and it will make it much easier for people to get access to the tools. (__Sjur__) !!!Future plans, directions and ideas See a separate document in {{plan/strat/5year.jspwiki}}. !!!Infrastructure Today's actual issue: The restructuring of giellatekno's home page. Objectives: * Make the pages more instructive also for non-linguists * Give a better impression of what we actually are doing * Above all, give an impression of why we do it * Make visible our current plans and future possibilities To accomodate future enhancements in different directions (in rough order of importance): # test bench for all parts of our language technology efforts ## test bench enhanced, but not yet complet # set up the Leopard Server features for collaborative support: ## permanent chat rooms ## stored (and indexed) chat transcripts of the chat rooms ## iCal server / group calendars ## wiki # wiki? on G5 (is part of Leopard Server) or other web-based documentation # improve Forrest stability and i18n support ( the divvun crashes) ## __Sjur__ has been working on better i18n and pdf rendering ## __Børre__ has some ideas for getting back to serving static html files # reorganise the documentation: ## differ between target groups ## get better grouping ## decide what to write in forrest and what in wiki (cf. [Apertium|http://www.apertium.org/] and [http://xixona.dlsi.ua.es/apertium/]) for a similar split) ## update/add missing parts # migrate lexc lexicons to XML, splitting the task ## Name lexica (the Name project) ## Dictionaries (already in XML, task is to integrate them) ## At least migrate the lexc open POSes (Komi as a pilot case) # change the look of the documentation web # sfst? ## replacement for xfst -> see [omorf |http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/kieliteknologia/tutkimus/omor/index.shtml], [omorf wiki|https://kitwiki.csc.fi/twiki/bin/view/KitWiki/HfstHome] and [omorfi|https://gna.org/projects/omorfi] ## replacement for hunspell/open-source proofing tools # investigate the [NSIS installer|http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Main_Page], potentially replacing the InstallShield package from Polderland # corpus content moved to Max Planck repositories? Norsk språkbank? # update infrastructure to allow content-restricted spellers for special target groups SVN issues: * http access not yet available (https only at the moment, but it works as anonymous checkout if the user is ''not'' specified) * read access to the whole repo is working, BUT: ** {{gt/*/polderland}} should be protected ** {{plan}} should be protected * certain users need to be on the UiT VPN to be able to commit (bug #705) * UTF-8 problem in svn commit mails: the commit log text is garbled __TODO:__ * infrastructure remake: (__Børre, Ciprian, Saara, Sjur, Tomi, Trond__) ** more modularised make / build infra (prepare for smn, sms, sjd, others) *** meeting Wednesday at 9.30 Norw. time - DONE *** __Børre__ is working on it ** merge gt, kt and st into one ** modularised preprocess and spellrelax * make a test-all target that runs all tests we have (__Ciprian, Sjur, Trond__) ** delayed until we have restructured the make/build process * define and document testing routines (__Ciprian, Sjur, Trond__) ** delayed until we have restructured the make/build process * follow-up migration to svn: ** close the open SVN repository at requested paths (__Ciprian__) *** completely closed at the moment, until we have solved the path-based control ** prepare and discuss with external users: Jack Ruether (__Trond__) * setup iCal Server (on XServe) (__Børre__) ** depends on the G5 returning * repair the G5 (__Børre__) ** the G5 has returned! * remove TOC from the giellatekno home page by using dispatcher (__Trond__) !!!Linguistics !!North Sámi (nothing new, see proofing bugs below) http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=711 !!Lule Sámi (nothing new, see proofing bugs below) __TODO:__ * {{sme->smj}} lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources, and increase {{smj}} coverage (__Trond__). * Add the words when all words are ready. !!South Sámi __TODO:__ * step two for adjectives (__David, Trond, Sjur__) * finish reformulating the noun grammar like the verbs (__David, Sjur, Trond__) ** proper noun done, but with errors * Missing list (focus on closed class words and addition on missing nouns, adjectives and verbs) (__David, Jovsset__) * prepare a workshop on South Sámi orthography and grammar (__David__) ** date: last week of February (23.-27.) seems to work fine with SGL/South Sámi branch ** Place: tentatively ''Trondheim'', nothing decided, no meeting rooms ordered ** we'll cover travel and hotel expenses ** we'll invite both SGL and as many of the other key persons in the {{sma}} writing/normativity community as possible ** set up a preliminary agenda (__David, Sjur__) ** prepare data for each topic (__David, Sjur, Trond__) * clean the {{smanob}} data (__Trond__ with some help) !!!Name lexicon/risten.no infrastructure From the meeting with the terminology and IT teams last week: * no major rework on the present search interface now * no work on the editing section; instead: * add existing lists of sanctioned terminology as separate term entities * add a dictionary if we can make one with sufficient quality This means the following tasks: * find already approved lists, in paper or electronic form (__term team__) * convert paper lists to electronic lists (__term team__) * convert lists to standard XML (__Sjur, Tomi__) * add prepared lists to risten.no (__Sjur, Tomi__) __TODO:__ # fix i18n bug in risten.no/G5 (so they will work without the proper locale request) (__Sjur__) # fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (__Saara__) # finish first version of the editing (__Sjur__) # test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: (__Sjur, Thomas, Trond__) # make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add {{nob}} as well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g. propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (__Sjur, Saara__) # convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files (__Sjur, Tomi, Saara__) # implement data synchronisation between [risten.no|http://www.risten.no] and the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the official one; also local installations could be treated the same way) # start to use the xml file as source file # clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use (e.g. @type=secondary) (__Thomas, linguists__) # merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki, Helsingfors, Helsset (__linguists__) # publish the name lexicon on risten.no (__Sjur__) # add missing parallel names for placenames (__linguists__) # add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils (__linguists__) !!Dictionaries __Ciprian__ is working hard on it. __TODO:__ * Continue the dictionary infrastructure discussion (__Ciprian, Sjur, Trond__) * make simple installer applications * make a public release ** Make a homepage with instructions for dictionary use: {{xtdoc/gtuit/src/documentation/content/xdocs/dict.eng.xml}} ** Clarify the difference between local and online dictionaries: *** Plugin for Firefox and Internet Explorer (online dictionaries) * Contact Davvi Girji about cooperation on electronic dictionaries (__Sjur__) * short meeting to go through missing points before a release (__Ciprian, Sjur, Trond__) !!!Proofing tools !!Hunspell __TODO:__ * check the hunspell test bench and tokenization errors (__Børre, Sjur__) * implement an easter egg (almost) identical to the Polderland one (__Børre__) ** done * fine tune suggestions (__Børre, Thomas__) ** working on it, there are some problem areas, e.g. {{vd -> vdd}} !!OpenXSpell Working everywhere (almost) in MacOS X applications, provides Sámi spell checking system-wide through a hunspell back-end. [OpenXSPell|http://www.cygnusblack.co.uk/openxspell/index.html] There are two issues: * strings with non-ASCII chars are always flagged * asking for suggestions on words witn non-ASCII chars crashes OpenXSpell !!Testing !Spelling Error Markup __TODO:__ * Set up ways of adding meta-information (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not) (__Saara__) * test new and nested error markup (__Sjur__) ** nesting still needs to be tested, depends on new {{ccat}} feature !Speller testing __TODO:__ * check ccat, whether it allows specification of error type to be extracted or considered when doing gold-standard testing (__Tomi__) ** checked, the feature should be working, but is undocumented * test the feature (__Sjur__) * document the feature (__Tomi__) !!Speller updates __TODO:__ * compile new spellers (__Tomi__) !!Speller bugs List of bugs returned from Polderland: 621, 630, 652, 656, 676. Open issues based on test results: !sme Version: __Davvisámi, version 1.0.1, 2008-11-23__ * 397 - see 449 * 435 - roman numbers - inflection of single letter numbers rejected, as well as some complex numbers (but is ok in {{smj}}) - still __OPEN__ ** we should pregenerate all numbers once and for all, and store them in a separate lexicon file * 449 - __REGRESSION:__ ''suopmasápmelaš'' comps wrongly accepted * 581 - consonant doubling - still __OPEN__ * 593 - Missing words in beta 2 - one word left (''Nuppelohkái''), still __OPEN__ * 595 - prefix+name without hyphen (''ovdaLot'' instead of ''ovda-Lot'') - still __OPEN__ * 597 - does not recognize nubbelohki - still __OPEN__ * 599 - numeral attr:s on lot - ''oktalot'' not recognized - still __OPEN__ ** 'oktalot' - 10? or 11? * 600 - Gen+hyph compound - __FIXED__ * 603 - suomabealdi accepted - still __OPEN__ * 610 - duhát words missing - ''oktanuppelotduhát'' remaining - __FIXED__ * 611 - double hyphen sugg still accepted - still __OPEN__, but no double hyphens, check test case ** only open case is adjective derivation related bug * 613 - short gen. as second compound part - still __OPEN__ * 619 - numerals and pronouns to NAMÁK and SASJ fails - ''vihttasoarttat'' remaining, still __OPEN__ * 627 - prefix + hyhpen does not get accepted - __FIXED__ * 629 - ''a'' taking part in compounding without hyphen - still __OPEN__ * 631 - number compound, numbers starting with 0 - __FIXED__ * 633 - double hyphens accepted - no double hyphens, but __OPEN__ case, check test case - __FIXED__ * 642 - noun/adj/proper + hyphen + ain - still __OPEN__ * 644 - cased numeral+numeral compund - __FIXED__ * 646 - adverb+hyphen+noun - __FIXED__ * 647 - numerals+NOUN - still __OPEN__ * 648 - __REGRESSION:__ unmotivated suggestions with numeral+noun * 655 - pron + nai - still __OPEN__, 'makkár+nai' missing ** sme.fst does not recognise it either * 696 - numerals + NAMAT-adjs + vuohta - still __OPEN__ * 717 - noun-acro compounds (juovla-CD) - still __OPEN__, but fixed in smj * 728 - vowel shortening GenCmp+Left-tagged - still __OPEN__ * 739 - Rmiddle-words accepted as first part of compound as well - __FIXED__ !smj Version: __Julevsáme, version 1.0.1, 2008-10-16__ * 435 - roman number - single letter numbers now recognised ** we should pregenerate all numbers once and for all, and store them in a separate lexicon file ** please note that ''inflection'' of single letter numerals is __fine__ in {{smj}}, as opposed to {{sme}} * 589 - __REGRESSION:__ suggestions involving vowel-replacement * 594 - __REGRESSION:__ lågenanguoktáj not recognized * 595 - prefix+name as split comp without hyphen - __OPEN__ * 599 - numeral attr:s on lot - still __OPEN__ * 616 - Bispadime-me-ráden - still __OPEN__, try to find an acro or abbr ''me'' * 629 - ''a'' taking part in compound - still __OPEN__ * 631 - number compound, numbers starting with 0 - __FIXED__ * 644 - cased numeral+numeral compund - __FIXED__ * 647 - numerals+NOUN - still __OPEN__ * 648 - unmotivated suggestions with numeral+noun - still __OPEN__ * 650 - noun prefix+name compound without hyphen - still __OPEN__ * 652 - UPPERCASE-typos only get acronym-suggestions - still __OPEN__ * 692 - numeral-variants - still __OPEN__ * 717 - noun-acro compounds - __FIXED__ * one regression in 407, because input word has been SUBed. __TODO:__ * document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion (__Tomi__) !!Hyphenator bugs Open issues based on test results : !sme Lexicon version: __Davvisámi, version 1.0.1, 2008-04-01__ * 468 - __REGRESSION:__''Márkomeanu'' - __OPEN__ * 547 - __REGRESSION:__ hyphen in front of vowel: ''Lotnolasealáhusas'' - __OPEN__ * 548 - __REGRESSION:__ mid syllable hyphenation: ''Háliidivččen'' - __OPEN__ * 549 - __REGRESSION:__ division without hyph: ''Váccedettiin'' * 673 - adj-derivations: ''guovttenuppelotčoarvvagiin'' (the word is not rec.) !smj Lexicon version: __Julevsáme, version 1.0.1, 2008-04-01__ * 545 - __REGRESSION:__ bad hyphenation in compounds: ''åhpadusorganisásjåvnån'' (not recognised) - __FIXED__ * 546 - __REGRESSION:__ obligatory hyph rules seem to work in facultative manner: ''organisásjåvnån'' (not recognised) - __FIXED__ * 547 - __REGRESSION:__ hyphen in front of vowel: ''Jienastimnjuolgadusá'' and ''Orgánajs'' __TODO:__ * fix PL hyphenator errors (__Tomi__) !!InDesign tools Nothing new. !!Releases __TODO:__ * update the ''Changes'' document (__Sjur__) * InDesign documentation (__Sjur__) ** Norwegian translation received from Davvi Girji * prepare 1.1 release soon ** target date: December 12 - one year after the 1.0 release. !!!Other !!Personell seminar in SD Task for those going there: sit down with Leif Åge, and have a look at the Divvun tools. ||Who ||going? | Børre | yes | David | no | Joseph | yes | Sjur | no | Thomas | no | Tomi | yes !!Sámi week in Tromsø __Sigbjørn Skåden__ has asked the UiT gang to demonstrate etc at the Tromsø city Library as a part of that week and the happenings at the Library. The week around February 6th (February 2-8). Sounds like a good idea, we will be there. * ped tools * Sámi dictionaries * Sámi proofing tools * other things? !!Text to speech Recording is done (Biret Ánne the local hero), the first alpha, or rather the quality is so good let us call it a beta has been made (Antti the Helsinki hero). Next step is to take one more round on improvements and do one rerun before the Sámediggi october meeting. Antti has hinted at the possibility of doing beta versions of other languages as well. We are thus now recording Greenlandic sentences. A further possibility would be smj, sma, this would require phon-smX.xfst files for these languages as well (a couple of days' work for smj, more for sma), plus recording. __TODO:__ * Make a second round of improvements. * Consider more languages (pro-et-con for all-in-one-step vs. one banana fly first, the optimal choice is not obvious). * meeting to discuss labour and cost estimates next week - participants: __Antti, Patrik, Sjur, Trond__ !!Corpus contracts + open source Postponed until the svn repository is fully functional (it is too open now). !!!Next meeting, closing The next meeting is 1.12.2008, 9.30 Norwegian time. The meeting was closed at 12:01. !!!Appendix - task lists for the next five days !!Boerre * leaflet: add Linux info (__Børre__) * Make a divvun-tools download log * check the hunspell test bench and tokenization errors * setup iCal server on the XServe * {{gt/Makefile}} remake * fine tune suggestions * improve OOo instructions * add Linux info in leaflet * leaflet screenshots for MS Office 2003 * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Ciprian * close the open SVN repository at requested paths * make a test-all target that runs all tests we have (with Sjur and Trond) * define and document testing routines (with Sjur and Trond) * continue the dictionary infrastructure discussion (with __Sjur, Trond__) * improve processing of new corpus documents * make the pipeline of ''StarDict'' dictionary generation running on the Mac * update the Makefile for generating dictionaries (related to the dictionary infrastructure task) * take care of the error logging during conversion process * look at the xml conversion quality * make a list of (general and special) problems related with converting docs into xml-forat and adding them to the corpora * continue the search and testing of an appropriate tool for lexicon working (no xml-file editing via text editors!) * generate new sme:nob/nob:sme dictionaries in all formats, marking them as "Beta"-versions (Sjur's proposal to use an image background for that purpose) * infrastructure remake - news discussion * short meeting to go through missing points before a dictionary release (with __Sjur, Trond__) * dictionary discussion on estethics, layout (with __Trond__) * build the first version of smanob-dictionary (both MacDict and StarDict) by 07. dec. 2008 * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!David * continue gathering {{sma}} corpus texts * stay in contact with''Sáminuorat'' about writing about the project and advertising. * prepare a workshop on South Sámi orthography and grammar (__David__) ** set up a preliminary agenda (__with Sjur__) ** prepare data for each topic (__with Sjur and Trond__) * call __Ristin Persson__ for permission to use Sámi Radio texts * integrate adjectives into the analyser, without morphology as a starting point * work with missing lists !!Jovsset * get the list of verbs from the auhtors of''Verbh''. * Write and translate leaflet text, add pictures. Talk to __John Marcus Kuhmunen __ about the design. Send him links to with all languages. * Find a suitable infrastructure for the distribution of the CD version. Possible through the library bus, the language centres and common sami centres in all of Sápmi. * write formal letter to translator of ''Gåessie dah jeatjebh åerieminie'' * leaflet: review the Windows pictures, and usage instructions for MS Office XP. Review the select sami language part. * Write installation instructions for word 2003 * better Windows usage descriptions, with emphasis on the pitfalls * Š-bláđi. Take contact with them about article. * work with missing lists !!Per-Eric * transfer the {{smj}} texts by __Kurt Tore__ and __Ulf Stefan Winka__ to our corpus repository * follow-up contract from __Lena Davidsson__ * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Saara * add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs * Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not) * implement the ped UI and functionality !!Sjur * name db/risten.no * update the ''Changes'' document * follow-up on some Polderland-related bugs: 621, 630, 652 * InDesign documentation * make a test-all target that runs all tests we have (with __Trond, Ciprian__) * define and document testing routines (with __Trond, Ciprian__) * continue the dictionary infrastructure discussion (with __Ciprian, Trond__) * Contact ''Davvi Girji'' about cooperation on electronic dictionaries * subcontractor work for {{sma}} proofing tools, MS and Adobe versions * support and maintenance contract for {{sme}} and {{smj}}, MS+Adobe tools * Sámi languages as part of ''Norsk språkbank'' * contact MS Nordic, and ask them to include the Divvun tools in the next Office releases * set up a preliminary agenda for {{sma}} workshop (__with David__) * prepare data for each topic at {{sma}} workshop (__with David and Trond__) * short meeting to go through missing points before a dictionary release (with __Ciprian, Trond__) * leaflet: add link to OOo installation and usage instructions * leaflet: add InDesign text * meeting next week to discuss labour and cost estimates of TTS project * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Thomas * gather the {{smj}} texts from ''Nord-Salten avis'' (online archive) * fine tune suggestions for Hunspell * look at test cases still not behaving properly * {{sme->smj}} lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources, and increase {{smj}} coverage * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Tomi * document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion * fix double hyphen bugs * fix PL hyphenator bugs * fix PL and Hunspell conversion bugs * infrastructure remake * check ccat, whether it allows specification of error type to be extracted or considered when doing gold-standard testing * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla] !!Trond * integrate {{sma}} adjectives into the analyser (without morphology) * finish reformulating the proper noun grammar (with __Sjur__) * infrastructure remake * prepare data for each topic at {{sma}} workshop (__with David and Sjur__) * dictionary discussion on estethics, layout (with __Ciprian__) * meeting to go through missing points before a dictionary release (with __Ciprian, Sjur__) * clean the {{smanob}} data * meeting next week to discuss labour and cost estimates of TTS project * [fix bugs!|http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla].